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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 06:56 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: How do you ride yours? Is it horses for courses? Reply with quote

Is there a universal style for riding or do you have to adopt different styles for different bikes?

Would trying to ride a super moto like a sports bike be no end of problems. Could you have spent years riding a chopper, jump on a tourer and then back again with ease?

How much of a difference in the bars, seat and general shape of a bike effects the ease or style needed?

I fear that I may be stuck in a biking genre. I like the idea of owning different styles of bike but would be worried about not being able to enjoy them as much as habit of riding a sports would be there all the time.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I ride a naked bike I don't know what to do with my elbows.

When I ride an offroader I sometimes forget about foot out and find myself attempting a more sportsbikey arse off knee out kind of affair.

Having the same bike for years and years has definitely got me a bit stuck in one stylee.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im certainly a supermoto rider at present, but having a go on friends 600's and 400's, and a 125 chopper ( Laughing ) i dont find it hard to adapt to that riding style.

I do love having the feel of control over my bike, rather than hoping for the best on a cruiser for example. So im sticking with supermotos for the next year.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have ridden sports and then the only different style bike was a Hornet. I found it very fun to ride, hard wrk getting used to the wind though, and felt much more comfortable jumping back onto a sports bike.

Had a sit on a CCM R30, and as much as I want a supermoto, I dont know if I could own one. It kind of hurt my balls and felt very strange to be sat in that position. I think with a few days of riding a different style you would get used to it! But at first, maybe even on test rides you will find it very alien!
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden naked retro sports style bikes my whole life, so when they tried to put me on a SR125 to do the CBT, I told them to stuff it, it felt really odd...and they relented and gave me the CG instead.

I have tried to ride a Virago, but it feels really odd, so cruisers, low riders aren't for me, personally.

But saying that I do know people who have a retro sports bike AND a harley... to suit their different moods.

I'm sure if I were to ride behind fairing/plastic/screen that would feel really weird to me too. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden all sorts of different bikes. The only thing I haven't ridden is a proper feet forward chopper.

I don't have an issue adapting to different styles of bike, for me the issue comes with different heights, weights and sizes of bike. I can pretty much ride any style of bike but I'd have issues with a very tall enduro for example.

I know what I prefer though, and that is generally sporty but with wide bars or higher clip ons; I can cope with low clip ons but I just prefer wide bars.

I'm sure that if I did ride a full on chopper I'd get into the swing of things very quickly and enjoy it even if it is slow and poor handling. Unlike some speed obsessed racers I could mention! Smile
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
When I ride a naked bike I don't know what to do with my elbows.


Thats more to do with the bars rather than wether or not it is naked or faired I suspect. You wouldn't have an issue with the Speed Four for example, as it has clip ons...
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Thats more to do with the bars rather than wether or not it is naked or faired I suspect. You wouldn't have an issue with the Speed Four for example, as it has clip ons...


Yes obviously, I was making a sweeping generalisation about naked bikes. You realise how many people don't actually know what clip ons are?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reevo8 wrote:
But at first, maybe even on test rides you will find it very alien!


Thats the thing.

If you are going to spend a fair amount of money on a bike and only have an hour or 2 to test ride it, will you feel instantly whether its for you or take a gamble and assume that you'll get used to it?

I like Bendys example of flailing elbows as I'm sure thats what I'd be like as clip ons just feel 'right' and get you in the comfy position, head down and off you go.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everybike has it's own character to deal with, which develops its own riding style.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

why cant you knee down on a super moto and foot out on a sports bike? what difference does it make?
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Shocked I do tend to ride more like a nutter on trail bikes

Which is prolly why I haven't currently got round to getting one back on the road, and am therefore still alive ... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden everything from sports bike adventure sport to full on cruisers to supermoto to big tourer. It does take some time to get used to riding something different, you need to make the mental distinction that whatever you're riding isn't (in your case) a sportsbike or you won't enjoy it.

The first bike that I rode when I started at the Triumph dealer was a Bonneville and I hated that first ride. I still had my ZX-6R head on and it just didn't work. The next time I rode it I managed to leave the sportsbike part of my brain in the fridge and I rode it the way that it's supposed to be ridden and I loved it. The Bonnies are now one of my favorite rides.

After a while you get used to riding other styles and you will find that it doesn't take much readjusting. The one thing that comes to mind with me is the time that I took a Daytona 650 out then got back and jumped straight on a Rocket III without even taking off my lid and I had no issues.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
I've ridden naked retro sports style bikes my whole life, so when they tried to put me on a SR125 to do the CBT, I told them to stuff it, it felt really odd...and they relented and gave me the CG instead.

I have tried to ride a Virago, but it feels really odd, so cruisers, low riders aren't for me, personally.

But saying that I do know people who have a retro sports bike AND a harley... to suit their different moods.

I'm sure if I were to ride behind fairing/plastic/screen that would feel really weird to me too. Smile


The oddness you felt isn't realy a cruiser thing just a virago thing they handle like a shopping cart, trying to turn in to fast at slow speeds and refusing to turn in at high speeds yet still grounding out, they realy do handle strangly.

Other than in a straight line i think the virago (or at leasst the 535 i had) is the worst handling cruiser ive ever riden.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

prawny1 wrote:
Other than in a straight line i think the virago (or at leasst the 535 i had) is the worst handling cruiser ive ever riden.


I would agree. I had a 45 minute or so ride on a 535 and it is just about the only bike that I've ridden where I couldn't find a single redeeming feature. It didn't go, it didn't stop, it didn't turn, it didn't look nice, it didn't sound nice, it was uncomfortable as hell and not even especially cheap!
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
why cant you knee down on a super moto and foot out on a sports bike? what difference does it make?


It realy un-nerves me when i see people sticking there foot out on the road, moped riders do it more often than the trail/moto riders i see,

sticking your foot out on the dirt just in case the bike slides/spins out means you have more chance of a clean departure from the bike and most of the time corner speeds arn't that high on the dirt you just end up siting on your arse in the mud.

If you watch supermoto racing you will see most of the riders don't stick there feet out on road sections, you wouldn't want to at the lean angles those guys get.

The idea of coming off on tarmac with my foot out by the front wheel, is enough to keep my feet on the pegs on the road, surley you would dislocate somthing at speed or rip a tendon if things went wrong.


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PostPosted: 18:07 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from an R6 to a MT-03 which has enduro wide bars with elbows out, and it hasn't felt strange for long atall. First hour or so was weird, but the absolute control you feel makes you think why you never went for wide bars before!

I have since sat on my R6, and can it feels so wrong now!
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelGrinder wrote:
I went from an R6 to a MT-03 which has enduro wide bars with elbows out, and it hasn't felt strange for long atall. First hour or so was weird, but the absolute control you feel makes you think why you never went for wide bars before!

I have since sat on my R6, and can it feels so wrong now!


I find with a sports bike you have to much weight on the bars so you don't realy get a feel of the lines the bike wants to take, you just end up forcing the bars to get the line you wan't rather than "feeling" where the bike wants to be and adapting your corner speed/position to make the best of it.

Sports tourers feel nicer to ride to me, (stuff like the zzr) that little bit taller bar and lower seat makes all the difference, sports bike are just to much hard work for me, and nee down has never realy been a goal of mine i just let the peg feelers tell me when i'm to low Cool .


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PostPosted: 18:26 - 11 Sep 2008    Post subject: Re: How do you ride yours? Is it horses for courses? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Could you have spent years riding a chopper, jump on a tourer and then back again with ease?


I made the switch from sports bikes to muscle bikes and you couldn't give me a sports bike now. Sat on my mates blade the other day. Found it that uncomfortable I didn't even want to ride it. Didn't have the heart to tell him the position was pants (imo). I'd probably take a long time to get used to one again. But everyone is different and some people don't find these things a problem. Smile
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gone from sportsbikes to naked, flat-bar'd streetbikes and been amazed at how weird the thing feels initially.

I swopped a ZX-9 (not too extreme I know) for a Renthal'd bandit and felt pretty detached for the first few miles. After a few days I got used to the increased leverage, so much so that riding friends sportsbikes afterwards felt very weird.

On a 'sit-up' bike you're much more upright and spacially aware in my humble opinion. City riding and two-up trips are much more suited towards this end of the biking spectrum.

On a sportsbike I feel much more in-tune with the lean-angle and find cornering so much easier.

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PostPosted: 14:14 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you watch supermoto racing you will see most of the riders don't stick there feet out on road sections, you wouldn't want to at the lean angles those guys get.


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PostPosted: 18:40 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

im having this trouble with deciding what 125 to buy.
obviously a 125 being down on power, the corners are where you need to be fast.
all i have riden are supermoto style bikes riding supermoto style (upright on the bike leg out etc) so i know ill be faster on aprilia mx for example rather than the rs.
but what has the potential to be faster through the corners?
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS should be quicker in the bendy bits.

As sad as this sounds, I'd quite like a little RS to have as a weekend plaything. A 250 would be the cc of choice over the 125 but beggers won't be choosers.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 12 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a guy on a ped the other day put both feet on the ground at about 20mph to try and stop the bike - made me cringe

I've tired a cruiser style bike if you can call it that in the Elminator 125 - didn't like it one bit. As it was an insurance bike I rag it to pieces.

The position on my GPZ500 was ok but the seat a bit narrow and low.

I tried a bros400 and it felt like a CG125 (which i've also tried). I generally do not like bikes with mirrors on the handle bars it just seems strange.

My favourite bike has to be my old NS125 cost £360 with 37,000 on the clock and no service history - And i thought 2-stokes were menat to be unreliable.
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