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Magnum
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: How to persuade your parents? Reply with quote

At 17, i am still living in my parents house and will be for a few more years.
I have not yet told them that i want to get a bike in January next year, and i know they are against me getting a bike.
They have always said to me when i was younger 'we will help you get a car, but not a bike'.

I already have a few points i could make but i could do with a few more.
For those of you that have had the same problem, what are some good ways to persuade your parents on letting you get a bike?

Thanks for any help.

(ps. this is simply asking for permission to keep the bike at my home, and to own it - not for them to put any money towards it. I work part time and i am saving.)
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy it, and then show them your bike, fully legal.
They'll calm down after a day or two. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move out. I persuaded my dad to let me keep the bike in "his" garage, but he was always funny about it. Even though it was a Honda City Express, so didn't take up much room. I suppose he did pay for it though... all £50 Laughing

Besides, living with your parents when you're old enough to get a room in a bedsit or something is lame.

Unless they do your washing and cooking, and you don't pay rent. In which case, stay there as long as possible Wink
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, my parents wouldn't let me have a bike either, or at least they weren't keen. I went to uni and accidentally bought one then, came back for Easter and told my parents I was going to do a CBT so I could ride a friend's bike... Couple of months later told them I'd bought my own bike.

Did my full test this summer without telling them, they noticed the lack of L plates "yeah, decided to do my test before they brought the new one in, means I can use motorways".

Went to visit a friend for the weekend, went up on the train, came back on the 550 Laughing

Mother dearest wasn't amused, but as I'd already got it- nowt she could do. Calmed down after a day or so anyway, so that's the way to do it...
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonstrate to them that you take it seriously, so get all the proper gear, high-vis top, white helmet and riding books like the DSA stuff to show you want to take a responsible and safe attitude towards it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

neil.martin wrote:
Demonstrate to them that you take it seriously, so get all the proper gear, high-vis top, white helmet and riding books like the DSA stuff to show you want to take a responsible and safe attitude towards it. Thumbs Up


Yep, that will help.

Definately don't do what I did and rag it around the streets with no helmet or gear on. Not to mention no licence, tax, MOT or insurance. Dad was not amused...
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always find its easier to just do something then apologise for it after, rather than ask permission in the first place.

But this kind of depends on your circumstances. If your paying naff all to live there and they're doing all your cooking, cleaning and washing, then going ahead and buying it would be taking the piss slightly. They might get really pissed and kick you out, then you'd be fucked.

Mind you at least then you'd have a bike so you could just give em the bird and ride it over to your nans and live there.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wil wrote:
neil.martin wrote:
Demonstrate to them that you take it seriously, so get all the proper gear, high-vis top, white helmet and riding books like the DSA stuff to show you want to take a responsible and safe attitude towards it. Thumbs Up


Yep, that will help.

Definately don't do what I did and rag it around the streets with no helmet or gear on. Not to mention no licence, tax, MOT or insurance. Dad was not amused...

Some good tips.

However, another approach is the pros and cons list. Just make sure they're reasonable and not too made-up.

For instance, why do you want a bike?
Is it for economic transport for college/university/work?
...or just to impress the girls?
Will the bike give you an amount of independence?
Will it stop your parents running you around?
Isn't a bike cheaper to insure and run (and repair!) than a car?
Will a bike allow you to learn road sense better than a car?
Are you prepared not just to be a fair weather biker?
Have you arranged some advanced training with the local IAM group or BikeSafe? (shows you're responsible plus may get cheaper insurance)

...you get the idea I hope.

Also show you can you afford it?
- purchase price
- tax
- MOT if required
- insurance
- pre-ride costs - CBT and lessons/test
- Bike gear - boots, textile trousers, jacket, gloves and helmet
- Bike security - chain, locks, ground anchor
- running costs immediate - petrol, oil
- running costs ongoing - service (teach yourself oil/filter/brakes), consumables like chain, tyres, etc.


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PostPosted: 15:24 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get one, they'll learn to live with it. Maybe get something slow and sensible initially (CG125 or similar) so they can get used to it slowly, rather than turning up with some fire-breathing beast.

They'd have to be properly odd to chuck you out for having a bike.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeesus don't you lot communicate with you parents at all? Confused

I'd be devastated if any of our lads felt they couldn't talk to me beforehand about something as important in their lives as this. Sad OK, having a bike wouldn't be a problem in our household but he principle remains.

Just sit down and talk to them ffs, they are your parents and they (hopefully) love you, so find out what their fears are about you having a bike and try to show them that you are mature enough to have thought things through and whatever it is that they are dreading you do not intend to become a statistic.

Listen to Map, he talks good sense here.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not tell them you are going to get a bike and ask if they could put money towards some training for you? If they care so much they will help pay for your training rather than let you struggle just doing the minimum to get on the road.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 22 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, especially map. I hadn't even though of some of those things.


I cannot simply go out and get a bike. For a start, i would need my dad to help me pick it up in the van, and i would not be allowed to keep it in the garden if they hadnt said yes to it first.

Im going to wait untill a good time when they are in extremely good moods, and when ive got enough points to explain to them. I shouldnt be in a hurry to get their permission if i cant even afford a bike untill january.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say on top of whats already been mentioned, as long as you don't get complacent with it, its no more or less dangerous than driving a car.

Sure, you read in the papers about yet another person dying horribly on a bike. But think of the countless thousands of miles travelled with out mishap...

Even reading on here could put a person off, but it would be a dull forum if everyone posted along the lines of; 'commuted to work, it was fine.'

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about passing your test first then coming to them with a "complete package"?

What did it for me was being 16 and getting a holiday job on a dairy farm that started at 4.30 in the morning. Moped came really quickly after that.

If you present them with something totally non-threatning looking as a request, this can help. Parents don't like them to look like motorbikes. If you went for something like a Honda Innova initially, you'd probably get further. Steer clear of fat tyres, loud exhausts and "all plastic bits on the front." until they are used to the concept of a powered two wheeler.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not also introduce your parents to a few non chavvy bike mates?

Let your parents ask them questions about biking in general?

They might feel better with information coming from another source because then it's not just you telling them things because you want a bike Wink

Apart from that I can't help....My Dad bought my first bike for me as a surprise Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I commuted to work today. It was fine.







(apart from all the crashes)
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF?

just tell them you want a bike and if they say no just tell them you are old enough to make you own choices in life and they should respect that.

if they give you "my house my rules" tell them you'll move out and then get a bike
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a parent of 3 boys.

They all love my bikes.

But there's no way they are getting one as their first vehicle.

I want them to gain road experience in a car first. At least for a couple of years.

I've no problems with them having an off road bike or a track bike prior to that though.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
I'm a parent of 3 boys.

They all love my bikes.

But there's no way they are getting one as their first vehicle.

I want them to gain road experience in a car first. At least for a couple of years.

I've no problems with them having an off road bike or a track bike prior to that though.


So they obtain all of the bad habits and assumptions of driving a car before moving onto what it an inherently more vulnerable vehicle? Surely that's somewhat arse about face Confused

To the OP. As others have said, the best thing to be doing is showing that you're making an effort.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
What about passing your test first then coming to them with a "complete package"?...

Good tip.

Alternative would be to get your CBT passed (assuming you've already got a licence).
Most places will rent you a bike and maybe some gear if you ask to get you passed.
Then with the CBT you've got something in hand to show the parents and 2-years wriggle room if required.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad said he would get me a scooter if i got a job to pay for fuel, i got a job and then got a scooter.

Mother wasnt happy but my uncle helped persuade her.

Then i used the whole more speed is safer theory (which is true) to convince them i should upgrade to a 125 when i was 17.

After a few months (summer 07) my dad started liking the idea of his son having a bike for some reason but my mum was happy when i got a car. My dad wanted to pay for my bike test but autumn fastly approached and i got into having a warm car.

Then this spring i got my dad to pay for the test and training and my mum to be my guarantor on a bike, used the argument that a new bike is safer than an old bike to persuade my mum to let me do it.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the majority of the suggestions here.

I definitely support the idea of showing them how mature you can be about it. And showing them that you are old enough to make your own choices and take responsibility.

When it comes to getting a bigger bike, the "well accelerating out of a problem is just as important as being able to brake out of a problem" reason always works Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say:

"Do you want a nice home when you are older?

Yes?

Then let me have a nice bike!"

Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:06 - 23 Sep 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fnatic wrote:
Say:

"Do you want a nice home when you are older?

Yes?

Then let me have a nice bike!"

Laughing


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