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 Posted: 19:54 - 23 Sep 2008 Post subject: Honda fx650 vigor? |
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Has anyone ever owned one?
I'm looking for something that i can use on and off road.I did have my heart set on a ccm604,but i stumbled on this bike locally.
It's a 2003 model with loads of tax & test.
Up for £1295.
https://i6.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/0e/9e/d8ba_1.JPG
Yes i know it's ugly as fuck but i reckon a change of headlight,remove the top box and get a jack up kit it might be an ok bike?
Just looking for some opinions really.?
Should i hold out for a ccm?
Also a few cheap suzuki dr350 for sale aswell,what they like?
(i did google the fx650 but not a lot of info come up for it really.
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looks like a slightly squashed anorexic hornet. ____________________ Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
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 Posted: 21:57 - 23 Sep 2008 Post subject: Re: Honda fx650 vigor? |
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I'd stay away if you want to do off-roading, especially if you haven't done much before. Yes you can do green-laning on it, but then mr tattoo was doing some lanes on a hornet apparently - doesn't mean it's easy for us mortals
I'm not sure I'd describe the DR350 as a seminal dual sport, but it is a decent choice.
For that sort of money, you could probably find a DRZ400, which'll do everything a little better.
The CCM604 uses a rotax engine; questionable reliability, though some claim they're fine if looked after; others say they just haven't had it go wrong yet. The more expensive 644 uses a more proven Suzuki engine, though less powerful.
The Honda would be a fair bit up on comfort compared to the CCM, but a fair bit down on off-road ability.
The vigor is 90% commuter and 10% off road at most, I'd say.
I saw a CRM250 MK3 with supermoto and enduro wheels on offer for £1300 recently. A 'trail' 2 stroke which should make an ok commuter and a decently fun bike off-road with out being too over the top.
Other bikes worth considering are the DR600 and KLR600 if you can kickstart them; a bit lighter than the lardier 650cc models. The XT350, XR400 and similar 250s if you don't need massive amounts of speed (which you won't get from the vigor either, really). |
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Thanks for the reply G
I'm quite put-off by the vigor now.
Thing is i'm struggling to find anything in my price range.I have about £1400 absolute max atm.
Been offered a 98 ccm604 for £1500 quid which has had lots of work done to the engine aswell as having r30 headers and a quill t3 can.It also has enduro and sm wheels(and plenty tax & test).
I like the idea of the ccm because it's an engine i can work on;having a timing belt and easily adjustable tappets rather than shimms.
I'm completely put off the kwaks now after owning the klr650 so dont wanna go their .
My riding will be about 70% road and 30% off road which puts me off getting a 350cc bike as i need the ability of going motorway cruising speeds when i want to.I'm thinking the bigger 600cc+ engines will cope better with that.
I'm a big bloke so i dont think the weight of the bike will be too much trouble off road.
The problem i have is i'm really impatient and this cash is seriously burning a hole im my pocket,so i have to find something fast,but as usual when i have the cash theres nothing for sale .
I waffled on a shitload there
Anyway,thanks. I'll keep on searching for now and see what i can do...Thanks again for the reply  ____________________ DRZ-400sm |
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Your weight added to the bikes may just make it worse - picking the bike up and getting knackered from fighting it is one thing, but the other is trying to make 200+kgs of combined rider/bike turn sharply (or stay in a straight line) when there's only some sloshing mud to offer you traction.
If you are actually intending 30% off road, I'd be looking at something a bit off-road biased personally, though when I bought my KTM I looked at it that it'd probably only get used off-road 10% of the time, but as that was the most fun bit, I'd be willing to put 90% of the bike's abilities towards that 10% fun bit .
The bigger bikes often don't go much faster (can probably hit 80-90 on an XR250 with the right gearing), but they do get there a bit easier.
DR600 is definitely worth a look; one on ebay for £600 BIN.
Hardly weigh more than the 350, but more grunt.
Had you considered two bikes?
Could probably get something like a GPZ500 for commuting and maybe a 250cc trail bike of some kind with your budget. Any problems with one and you've got a spare bike too. |
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 Posted: 23:17 - 23 Sep 2008 Post subject: |
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Just had a look at that dr600 on ebay.
Tbh it looks a bit rough for me and being a D reg a bit too old aswell.(although i'm sure it'll have a few years left in it yet)
The 2 bikes thing is a possibility,although i very much doubt i'd get 2 bikes for my budget.
Thing is i'm just riding for fun now so dont actually need a commuter bike.Just gonna be a fun bike,which again is why the ccm is soooooo tempting with it having sm wheels aswell .
I think the ccm is gonna be my number 1 choice,unless something else comes up that i cant resist...
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Remember bikes will start to look 'rougher' as you take them through greenlanes etc.
Oops, thought you mentioned commuting - can't see any other reason to buy a vigor, I suppose .
On that, have a look XR650R, or one of the KTM LC4s might be a good choice, but may be pushing budget a bit too much for an ok one.
Basically, you've got a compromise of:
Weight / Reliability / Power.
Generally you can have any two of those, but got the 'holy trinity' of all three is going to be much harder.
The CCM604 still isn't that light a bike, but should be a fair bit better than the FX. |
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I'd love an xr650,but they just hold their price too well for my budget .Maybe one day. ____________________ DRZ-400sm |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 13 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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