EDF to buy British Energy?

[pa_broon74]

Not sure if this has been posted before, but I heard on the news this morning that French state owned energy company EDF has put in a 12.5 billion pound bid for BE who own/run UK Nuclear power plants.

Now, I don't know a whole hell of a lot about big business, diplomacy and our relationship with France. But is it not a wee bit off handing over responsibility of our Nuclear power generation to another country?

I would've thought it was...


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[panrider_uk]

Its their revenge for Agincourt

Mark
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[ColdInsomnia]

Well, we've already handed over most governmental responsability to Europe... Things are going to continue this way.

Bad thing? Guess we'll find out.
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[pa_broon74]

I'm just not comfortable with infrastructure being sold to the highest bidder, foreign or otherwise. If its a bank or a TV company then fair enough, but a power company?

Mmm... The French could turn round and say for example, stop bastardising our delicious french cuisine or we'll turn all your lights out! Comprendez?


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[Davo]

[ColdInsomnia]

The point I was trying to make, is that these companies are not 'foreign' any more. We are all Europeans now - this is ultimately no more disturbing than say, a Scottish company controlling English water supplies.
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[igiyf]

uh in all the "EU Conspiracy" videos that scream over and over why the EU is bad..it states again and again that Britain is seen as a powerful force and needs to be bought down from within..taking ALL powers away and handing them abroad..buying it out and closing its independence down..could just be a coincidence though..more than likely is

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[Fawbish]

[pa_broon74]

I ni n'a demandé ni a voulu votre avis vous larve puante.



Maintenant je tournerai tous vos lightbulbs anglais au loin



I reckon these online translator things just churn out crap, after all, who'd know if you're having to use a translator in the first place.

On being European, did we not become 'more' European when the UK signed that treaty? You may be more European than you think...


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[Fawbish]

I know you didnt want my opinion

However, that is some poor french right there

Je suis fatigant de les mauvais capacites linguistiques!


(Thats not the best french either, but I dont have my gf around to help so shush )


Damn it! We ARE fuckin' european! Meh, at least more sex, booze and drugs should be available.
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[pa_broon74]

I don't mind the idea of being European in some respects, they're more laid back in certain areas for example. One could argue that they are much better looking in places too...

I just don't want a Frenchman with his hand round the lever that controls Britains ability to see at night!




(I am tiring of the bad linguistic capacities... Oooh get you!!! )
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[cestrian]

[colin1]

[pa_broon74]

I don't think their motivation is that altruistic to be honest. Yes, they are advanced in nuclear power but in terms of diplomatic leverage, owning all our Nuclear power stations is something of a card up the sleeve is it not?

Eon is also owned I think by the french, its getting to the point where our energy supply is being managed entirely by foreign powers.

If EDF wasn't state owned I might be less suspicious, you could then argue that its entirely a capitalistic profit-led move...

I just think certain things should be state owned, including things like nuclear power stations and as mentioned; airports. Infrastructure...


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[igiyf]

[pigmo]

I'd love to see who's on the list of EDF shareholders.
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[WildGoose]

[cestrian]

[Mister James]

The French owning our power stations isn't anything to do with the EU, it's just business. It's crap - but that's down to OUR government(s) neglecting Nuclear power because it looked back to the middle class lefty vote. The EU had fuck all to do with it.

The EU is a big pile of steaming shit that is helping to mess this country up - but this isn't an example of it, it's a home grown problem.
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[pa_broon74]

I was just reading the BBC's Have Your Say page (its so deliciously middle class... )

There was a Frenchman asking which we'd rather be, a poodle of the US government or a partner with France... I take his point, France's foreign policy record (what I know of it) seems a lot better than others, it being much more measured and restrained.

I also take on board their expertise in the field, if any state owned entity is to take over our nuclear power gegeration I suppose the French are a good choice.

I do however despair at the mismanagement that has led this country into its current state. I'm all for globalisation, I'm even in favour of a united Europe (although not in this current top heavy corrupt form.)

On the 'subsumption' of Britain into Europe? I'm not too bothered about that, I don't feel particularly precious about being british anyway. If ever I go globe trotting* I'd never say, if any one asked where I was from, that I was British, I'd say Scottish.

I suppose as a continuation, it would be interesting to know who owns our main arms manufacturers? That would be an issue would it not?

Imagine for a moment we fall out with, say, Norway. We deploy our nuclear missile subs as a deterrant. But Norway won't back down (those crazy vikings ) We go to open our missile doors, but whats this!! They won't open!! 'Oh dear' we say as we see a smug Norwegian holding the keys to the missile doors that were manufactured in his country...

Gone are the days of conventional invasion using ground forces etc, you can just buy the country you're after now...



* I never go globe trotting.
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[Fawbish]

I vote an entire overhaul of society.


We train our young ones to grow up strong, and to be able to think and fight.


Its pretty simple. We start off, by first of all learning to hunt again. All those massive supermarkets? Rip out their innards and get a small ecology growing. Wildlife, forests, alsorts in them things.

You turn up at the door, you pay, go to the changing rooms, out your office clothes and into your hunting gear.

A bow, and some arrows are provided, and a small 6inch knife, that if taken outside the door, disintergrates (safety first).

You hunt wild pigs, wrestle hogs and the odd panther, grab a few chickens, pick some vegetables whilst fending off a hoard of angry bees 'cos you stole their honey, and then milk a cow in a seperate room on the way out.

You get your office clothes back on, pick a trolley and wheel your winnings and dead animals to the car. You sort it all out, and cook it for yourself.

This silmultaneously solves:

a) Obesity will be solved. "Oh, but its a medical thi-" No. Its fucking not. Get in there, fatboy, and hunt a fucking pig, or you aint eating.

b) Our fear as a nation that we can't defend ourselves against attackers/youths/criminals. They'll think twice when theyre reaching inside your pocket and you turn, fire in your eyes, neck muscles bulging and screaming incoherently at them with an animal-like intensity. As a result, we become a hardier people, dependent upon less and less technology to get through life. We're still just as smart, but we dont fuckin' need stuff.

c) We will weed out the weak among our society. If you get skewered by a charging wild hog, you werent good enough in the first place, so deal with it, you fag.







You want Britain? "Come and fuckin' get her then, 'cos we aint going down without a fight," the nation will say.


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