honda cg125 starting problem (2004 54 plate)

[flying125]

Hi

This morning I have just performed a service on my 2004/54 plate cg125 (oil change, oil filter clean, air filter clean, spark plug clean, etc) - its the 12500 miles service. When I tried to re-start the bike after completing the service the motor turned over once but failed to start (this is normal). However when I tried a 2nd time the motor didnt turn over at all - all I get is an electrical switch-like sound from the area of the battery (this bike only has an electric starter).

But I didnt touch any of the electrics - apart from the spark plug!

I was very careful removing the plug - I cleaned around the base first and then removed the plug. The plug itself looks in good condition (in my opinion - and that of an old haynes manual I have). I have removed an replaced it several times to be sure. The battery definitely has power as the front light comes on when I turn the key to the start position.

Any ideas? To me it sounds like the starter motor is just not kicking in. But surely this is not a coincidence - is it? What could I have done here?

Cheers
flying125

[petemell]

I think the battery could be just low but not entirely flat. When this happens the lights can come on but there may not be enough power to turn the motor.

The switch clicking you can hear is the starter relay, this is normal. Firstly I would try charging the battery, if it is not holding charge it is probably knackered. It is curious because the service you did should not effect this.

Was the bike stood for a while before you serviced it or is it used daily?

[flying125]

[deanoet]

u tried bump starting it?

get a mate / victim, or someone young enough to find it fun, to push u while in second gear and ignition on
drop the clutch and twist on the power

once started keep it still with a few revs on go for a small ride to charge the battery and then back home, switch off, and see if it will start again


if the battery is really dead, dont go far incase ir cuts out,
____________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CBT Passed 18th July 2007 : Previous Bikes> CG125 : Current Bike> Hornet 600 : PASSED DAS 30th Oct 2007
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[I_Hate_Euro3]

Put a new spark plug in.
Charge the battery.

Then see what happens before you start beating the bike up.

Check out the Honda CG125 website
https://hondacg125.awardspace.com/

To turn the engine over simply put the bike in 2nd gear and turn the back wheel with the ignition off.

[rotax81]

apart from sounding like a flat/knackered battery you may have disturbed a wire somewhere.

check all the connector blocks for a good contact and also check the battery leads and earth wires are tight enough.
____________________
ZX636C6F road. ZX636C1H track. ZX7R redundant. ZX0.5R minimoto as ornament.
Audi A4 Avant 1.9TDi and VW Transporter 2.5TDi 888 Special (no mot and tax lol)

[flying125]

I got it fixed. At the end of the day all it took was a hit on the starter motor with a mallet - Im not a mechanic but it seems it must have seized up when I initially attempted to start the machine after the service.

Thanks for all the advice all.

[flying125]

[I_Hate_Euro3]

[flying125]

[Xenocide]

[I_Hate_Euro3]

I used to start a bike that only had a kickstart (not a honda).

It developed an intermittent fault.
When I tried to start the bike there was no resistance on the kickstart.
I mechanic told me to hit it with something big and heavy and it worked.
Every time I hit it hard enough I could hear a spring go ping and then the kickstart worked.

The kickstart only engages with the engine when the engine is off.
When the engines running it must disengage with the engine.
I belive the fault was the kickstart was still disengaged when the engine was off due to the spring not springing back.

I used to hit it with a big heavy disc lock.

I wonder if draining all the oil out could have caused the fault with the electric starter?
Saying that I still expect battery voltage / charge.

[ajacko]

[flying125]

[astroscope]

I thought honda cg is really reliable?
____________________
2010 Honda FES S Wing 125

[luke27]

[astroscope]

Just changed the oil a week or back with Castrol oil. Only Oil that Halfords stocked for the CG125.
Maybe this week i will clean the chain and lube it aswell.
____________________
2010 Honda FES S Wing 125

[astroscope]

How much are the spark plugs for these Honda's?
____________________
2010 Honda FES S Wing 125

[flying125]

[astroscope]

Is this the video:

https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-oovP9hJT6Y&feature=related

Fantastic little bike!!!
____________________
2010 Honda FES S Wing 125

[luke27]

When I was riding the other day I spoke to an owner of a Honda CG125 2004 model.
He also had the starter motor problem and simply cleaned it.
The problem happened after 15000 miles.

I just found a video of someone bump starting the Honda CG125.
It looks like a 2004 to 2008 model.
Sounds like the battery needs a charge.

https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JrWcjsNpCTQ&feature=related

[flying125]

[astroscope]

[astroscope]

I reckon that one day i will need to replace both my tyres. I believe the costs a whopping £80 onwards for one. Is that true?
Does anyone know of a place to get tyres of this bike at a good price?
____________________
2010 Honda FES S Wing 125

[flying125]