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slap-pop-karl
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

So is it possible to change my 125 4 stroke to a 2 stroke? I personally would love to have a bit more acceleration and it seems hard to get any parts for my chinese bike that will help that. So Out of interest is it hard to do? And how could I do it? Just fit a new engine? Or is there alot more to it than that? Thanks spk.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

Fit a new engine, also a new carb and exhaust. New electrics to match too. If it's a cheap chinese bike, you might need to upgrade various other parts to cope with the extra power.
Considering the cost of a cheap 2 stroke whole bike, it would be a hell of a lot better idea just to buy one Smile.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeerrrr........
If you want to build yourself a new engine or buy a new one and see if it fits, otherwise u might be better at googling 2 stroke and 4 stroke to see the big difference in the engines. in other words no you cant .

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck the poppet valves away and replace them with carbon reeds.
that should do it lol
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

slap-pop-karl wrote:
So is it possible to change my 125 4 stroke to a 2 stroke? I personally would love to have a bit more acceleration and it seems hard to get any parts for my chinese bike that will help that. So Out of interest is it hard to do? And how could I do it? Just fit a new engine? Or is there alot more to it than that? Thanks spk.


Engine swap yes.

Change the engine from one to another? No don't be daft!

As another poster suggests I think you should look at howstuffworks.com to see the difference between a four stroke and two stroke engine.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
slap-pop-karl wrote:
So is it possible to change my 125 4 stroke to a 2 stroke? I personally would love to have a bit more acceleration and it seems hard to get any parts for my chinese bike that will help that. So Out of interest is it hard to do? And how could I do it? Just fit a new engine? Or is there alot more to it than that? Thanks spk.


Engine swap yes.

Change the engine from one to another? No don't be daft!


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One day, I'll prove you wrong with that one. (It may be in many years time but I will prove you wrong Laughing )

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PostPosted: 20:14 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try putting a 4-stroke head on a 2-stroke barrel making it a 6-stroke, but you'll only be able to get it out every April the 1st Smile
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:


[Random crazy post]

One day, I'll prove you wrong with that one. (It may be in many years time but I will prove you wrong Laughing )

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AMEN, crazy stroker brother

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PostPosted: 22:48 - 07 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike is it?

Would be a good start.


Chinese bike?

So is it a scooter or a bike.

If its a bike, Have a look at the engine. Its not a C90 style engine is it? If so, then any pit bike engine will fit. you get a 70cc 2 stroke. Right up to punchy 20bhp 160cc 4 strokes.


If its a scooter, then there is more work involved. But it is possible.

You'd have to take some measurements. Then source the complete back end from something like a Piaggio typhoon 125 (2 stroke).

With the scooters, You would have to use the complete rear end, Including the transmission and the rear wheel, Exhaust, carb, the lot.

The 125 typhoon engine would be your best choice as its Air cooled.

All you would need to do is either run it on pre-mix. Or find somewhere to house a 2 stroke oil tank.




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PostPosted: 16:09 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah the hell with it, just go and fit a V8 Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Ah the hell with it, just go and fit a V8 Thumbs Up

https://www.conleyprecision.com/IMG_7546.JPG
Question is, do you go for the supercharged option? Smile
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha. Well telling you what engine it has in it will help and the bike type. Its an AJS cr3-125. It has a Honda XR engin in it. Thanks for the links and the posts guys Smile Think I'll do a v8 Razz (i hope you guys wern't being serious)
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Ah the hell with it, just go and fit a V8 Thumbs Up

https://www.conleyprecision.com/IMG_7546.JPG
Question is, do you go for the supercharged option? Smile


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PostPosted: 17:34 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to remember saying there is no such thing as a stupid question......


I stand corrected Embarassed

You want more get up and go then the best you can do is change the sprockets.
Think its less teeth at the front and more on the rear...
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: 4 stroke - 2 stroke? Possible? Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:


[Random crazy post]

One day, I'll prove you wrong with that one. (It may be in many years time but I will prove you wrong Laughing )

[/Random crazy post]


AMEN, crazy stroker brother

One day the world will heed our greatness!!!

Rich


I think Geri is on to us Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 08 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Ah the hell with it, just go and fit a V8 Thumbs Up

https://www.conleyprecision.com/IMG_7546.JPG
Question is, do you go for the supercharged option? Smile


That guy has massive hands Very Happy
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought /everyone/ knew all you do is put 2T in the tank and it changes it.

N00bs
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
I thought /everyone/ knew all you do is put 2T in the tank and it changes it.

N00bs



Or Sugar, That works.



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PostPosted: 23:11 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
MarJay wrote:
Ah the hell with it, just go and fit a V8 Thumbs Up

https://www.conleyprecision.com/IMG_7546.JPG
Question is, do you go for the supercharged option? Smile
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slap-pop-karl wrote:
haha. Well telling you what engine it has in it will help and the bike type. Its an AJS cr3-125. It has a Honda XR engin in it. Thanks for the links and the posts guys Smile Think I'll do a v8 Razz (i hope you guys wern't being serious)
So it's a Chinese version of the new CBR125 then, I looked into them when they first came about but they're well overpriced. And yeah.. just go into your nearest model shop with a print out of that pic and they'll order you one. Then just make some mounting brackets, the sound would be epic, so Youtube it. Thumbs Up
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