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PostPosted: 17:57 - 09 Oct 2008    Post subject: I sense a confluence... Reply with quote

...of events.

2012 just around the corner, the capitalist system is finally unravelling, the climate is in meltdown and ET has anounced he's to make himself known to the masses.

Coincidence?

Fingers crossed we just happened to be born to be alive when the real big sh!t hits the fan. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 09 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just need Jesus to turn up to the party now.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 09 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christian escatology has been pointing at 2008 for a while.

A guy called Ronald Weinland claims to be the last prophet - we actually the last pair, as his wife is too. He's been predicting away for at least 10 years, and has been tolerably accurate, although his predictions have been somewhat vague. All of it is based on the events in the book of revelations unfolding.

Anyway, the basis of his stuff is that 2008 is where mankind gets past the point of no return - he predicted a financial collapse starting off the collapse of western life, and leading into a massive war, proving once and for all that man is incapable of running the earth.

Then Jesus Christ comes back, takes charge, and everything is great for the next thousand years. We also get to go back to living for hundreds of years, as in the old testament.

He wrote a book with the predictions of all this stuff falling over during 2008 back in 2006, when it wasn't that obvious. So the man may be on to something.

So don't rule out Jesus. I know there's no proof, I know its not trendy, but its just as valid as aliens.

If any of these events are true - the second coming, aliens, mayan calendar, it puts a lot of stuff in perspective. Buying a house, getting a mortgage, saving. All may turn out to be a bit pointless.
Accumulating assets and knowledge that you can actually use makes more sense. A lot of teenagers in Holland are buying boats and tinned food.

Time will tell. Luckily, seeing as I am of the playstation generation and therefore have an attention span measured in minutes, none of the predictions involve waiting too long.

Of course, if it's all not true, the stock market recovers, life carries on as normal, we'll be psychopathically bored out of our skulls by 2015.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
Time will tell. Luckily, seeing as I am of the playstation generation and therefore have an attention span measured in minutes, none of the predictions involve waiting too long.

Of course, if it's all not true, the stock market recovers, life carries on as normal, we'll be psychopathically bored out of our skulls by 2015.


I wish I could give you more karma for that. Brilliant
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inspired post Robby Thumbs Up


I really, honestly would like something to happen on October 14th. Just to see the look on peoples faces after theyve spouted bullshit like "Its ridiculous!"

For fucks sake, we know its unlikely, it will probably be absolutely nothing at all, and as Robby says, we'll be bored again by 2015. But what if it did. What would your reaction be if they came "in peace"? Or...howabout they came and destroyed us? Made war on our planet? Imagine if the army started a round up of able bodied young men once again? The entire planet unites and goes to war? Epic. Dark, impossible probably, but epic.

But how is it so hard to even entertain the possibility of other life out there, that out of thousands of planets and tons of solar systems, we are the only life form? It just seems fuckin' naive.



However. The imagination is a powerful entity. And mine got carried away. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
What would your reaction be if they came "in peace"? Or...howabout they came and destroyed us? Made war on our planet? Imagine if the army started a round up of able bodied young men once again? The entire planet unites and goes to war? Epic. Dark, impossible probably, but epic.


Awwww stop it!
I can't stop figiting now in my chair thinking about the possibilty of going to war with the Aliens.
Id be the first in line for a ray gun, heading straight over to Alabama to fry more than just chicken.
I'd kiss their ass, adorn a weird uniform and go marry a bird with more fu** holes than yanks have brain cells.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing





I would genuinely be getting gear together, singular war hero stylee, belts of ammunition, hundreds of guns.


Im imaging a "Lobby Scene" recreation, from the Matrix.


Alien: "Excahuse me human, do you have any loose change, keys, valuable items etc..."

*Opens coat in slow-mo and looks cooly up at the alien*

Alien: "Holy crutsfaeces!"

*slams the alien with a flat palm, whops out two mp5's and lets rip, all in bullet time*

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PostPosted: 10:25 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be wanting the special DVD: "All urban conurbations with one-million or more inhabitants levelled by photon-cannon." Laughing

Children and kittens evacuated first of course. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia wrote:
One of McKenna's ideas is known as novelty theory. It predicts the ebb and flow of novelty in the universe as an inherent quality of time. McKenna developed the theory in the mid-1970s after his experiences in the Amazon at La Chorrera led him to closely study the King Wen sequence of the I-Ching. Novelty theory involves ontology, extropy, and eschatology.

The theory proposes that the universe is an engine designed for the production and conservation of novelty. Novelty, in this context, can be thought of as newness, or extropy (a term coined by Max More meaning the opposite of entropy). According to McKenna, when novelty is graphed over time, a fractal waveform known as "timewave zero" or simply the "timewave" results. The graph shows at what time periods, but never at what locations, novelty increases or decreases.

Considered by some to represent a model of history's most important events, the universal algorithm has also been extrapolated to be a model for future events. McKenna admitted to the expectation of a "singularity of novelty", and that he and his colleagues projected many hundreds of years into the future to find when this singularity (runaway "newness" or extropy) could occur. Millenarians give more credence to Novelty theory as a way to predict the future (especially regarding 2012) than McKenna himself. The graph of extropy had many enormous fluctuations over the last 25,000 years, but amazingly, it hit an asymptote at exactly December 21, 2012.[18] In other words, entropy (or habituation) no longer exists after that date. It is impossible to define that state. The technological singularity concept parallels this, only at a date roughly three decades later.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_theory
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
Wikipedia wrote:
One of McKenna's ideas is known as novelty theory. It predicts the ebb and flow of novelty in the universe as an inherent quality of time. McKenna developed the theory in the mid-1970s after his experiences in the Amazon at La Chorrera led him to closely study the King Wen sequence of the I-Ching. Novelty theory involves ontology, extropy, and eschatology.

The theory proposes that the universe is an engine designed for the production and conservation of novelty. Novelty, in this context, can be thought of as newness, or extropy (a term coined by Max More meaning the opposite of entropy). According to McKenna, when novelty is graphed over time, a fractal waveform known as "timewave zero" or simply the "timewave" results. The graph shows at what time periods, but never at what locations, novelty increases or decreases.

Considered by some to represent a model of history's most important events, the universal algorithm has also been extrapolated to be a model for future events. McKenna admitted to the expectation of a "singularity of novelty", and that he and his colleagues projected many hundreds of years into the future to find when this singularity (runaway "newness" or extropy) could occur. Millenarians give more credence to Novelty theory as a way to predict the future (especially regarding 2012) than McKenna himself. The graph of extropy had many enormous fluctuations over the last 25,000 years, but amazingly, it hit an asymptote at exactly December 21, 2012.[18] In other words, entropy (or habituation) no longer exists after that date. It is impossible to define that state. The technological singularity concept parallels this, only at a date roughly three decades later.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_theory


I read things about 2012 years ago and thought it quite interesting, but it wasnt until a few months ago that I read about Mckenna and the novelty theory that I really began to take notice.

Mckenna apparently developed his theory after experimenting with DMT (Dimethyltryptamine - most powerful hallucinogen known to man), and after reading a book by a medical doctor detailing his work with psychedelics and patients and their experiences (the book is called The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Straussman) it really got me thinking.

Another interesting point is that Mckenna developed this theory and gave an approximate date several years before the discovery of the Mayan calendar system and at what date it was calculated to end, and I think this lends a lot of weight towards its credibility. Seriously interesting stuff, and im quietly hoping that 2012 doesnt turn out to be a duff like many so called predicted events.

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PostPosted: 15:09 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, perhaps, is that the site which hosts the latest version of the timezero software has been down since October 2nd....... Thinking Thinking

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PostPosted: 15:20 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats going to happen in 2012 again? Do I need to tell the milkman not to bother with our usual?
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do what you did the night before the Millenium bug was about to destroy the world.

robby wrote:
Accumulating assets and knowledge that you can actually use makes more sense. A lot of teenagers in Holland are buying boats and tinned food


Doesn't make much sense to me, if we're headed for the apocalypse I'll be stealing boats and tins of baked beans when the time comes, not like I'll be concerned about my criminal record and future employment prospects...
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
Just to see the look on peoples faces after theyve spouted bullshit like "Its ridiculous!"

But how is it so hard to even entertain the possibility of other life out there, that out of thousands of planets and tons of solar systems, we are the only life form? It just seems fuckin' naive.



And believing some neurotic Australian called Blossom Lovechild isn't?

Go back to fighting the Aliens in Halo 3 or whatever it is you were doing.

P.S It's ridiculous.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Just do what you did the night before the Millenium bug was about to destroy the world.

robby wrote:
Accumulating assets and knowledge that you can actually use makes more sense. A lot of teenagers in Holland are buying boats and tinned food


Doesn't make much sense to me, if we're headed for the apocalypse I'll be stealing boats and tins of baked beans when the time comes, not like I'll be concerned about my criminal record and future employment prospects...


Ah, but you assume said teenagers aren't chuckling with glee at the prospect of a Big Fucking Disaster and therefore rather enjoying making preparations. You only have to read three posts at random in the BCF current affairs section to see that, for many people, predicting the end for all of us is quite the enjoyable pastime.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Just do what you did the night before the Millenium bug was about to destroy the world.


Have a rest after spending about 6 years fixing bugs that would have screwed up computer systems?

First millenium bug problem that had already caused a production failure that I had to fix I found in 1995.

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PostPosted: 18:13 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, but you assume said teenagers aren't chuckling with glee at the prospect of a Big Fucking Disaster and therefore rather enjoying making preparations. You only have to read three posts at random in the BCF current affairs section to see that, for many people, predicting the end for all of us is quite the enjoyable pastime.


Damn straight. I'm praying it up a storm that the really big shizzle is about to hit the fan. Seeing the monsters that run this toilet running around crying like babies as their wealth and privilage evaporates is worth just about any entry-fee I can think of, even death.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
You only have to read three posts at random in the BCF current affairs section to see that, for many people, predicting the end for all of us is quite the enjoyable pastime.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra


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PostPosted: 18:50 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom, the end of the world is a very possible situation. Pretending that it's never going to happen is only going to make it more likely.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet after a thousand-odd years of continuous empire the extant Romans never thought the show was about to come to an end. Same mind-set going on here. All we've got that's different is technology, and the way it's being used it's not going to be of any use saving this particular civilisation. If anything it'll hasten the end.

Get used to the idea people, we've run out of everything and there are too many people about to fight for what's left. This show is nearly over.

YAY!!! Dance!
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dom, the end of the world is a very possible situation. Pretending that it's never going to happen is only going to make it more likely.


And pretending that it's going to happen tomorrow is worthwhile how, exactly? I find conspiracy theorists as tedious as religious zealots, and for exactly the same reasons. This obsession with what could be, yet cannot be controlled by you or I. Who gives a toss? Life's too short; enjoy the here and now.

I think I'll start by dialling out the crazy and putting Current Affairs on my ever-growing list of hidden forums. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the end of the world is coming, I just acknowledge it as a possibility, and strangely enough enjoy (using the term loosely) discussing it with like-minded sadists.

But ultimately, you're completely right. There's nothing we can do about it, so just enjoy yourself. I'm not letting it get me down. At least not right now.

It's easy to say "just enjoy yourself" when you have food in your belly and a roof over your head.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
ColdInsomnia wrote:
Dom, the end of the world is a very possible situation. Pretending that it's never going to happen is only going to make it more likely.


And pretending that it's going to happen tomorrow is worthwhile how, exactly? I find conspiracy theorists as tedious as religious zealots, and for exactly the same reasons. This obsession with what could be, yet cannot be controlled by you or I. Who gives a toss? Life's too short; enjoy the here and now.

I think I'll start by dialling out the crazy and putting Current Affairs on my ever-growing list of hidden forums. Laughing


Conspiracy-theories are part of the here and now, and enjoying them is as legitimate as enjoying a bar of chocolate. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 10 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
Pretending that it's never going to happen is only going to make it more likely.


Why? It'd take global nuclear war or an outside event out of our control (asteroid, supernova, outbreak of killer bird flu) to end the world totally. So how is pretending it won't happen going to make any of those events more likely? You either believe it's going to end, or you don't, neither will have any effect on what happens.

The Russians have always been fairly quiet, maybe they're going to start a crusade. Or the Chinese, they've made lots of money making shit bikes and ipod clones, sure they wouldn't mind expanding their territory, maybe 2012 is just the date for the 'new world order', a phrase loved by Cestrian and like. Except it's not the one everyone expected. Or maybe the Germans are getting bored and feeling a little confined again.
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