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PostPosted: 21:15 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Lets say.. (acceleration or top end) Reply with quote

What do you prefer acceleration or top end? I don't mean top end as in going 160+mph I mean either having 0-60 in 5.5 seconds for acceleration but in doing so only being able to go 60.
Or a bike with a pretty bad acceleration and a top end of 100mph? what would you rather have?
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acceleration then gear it so the top end is higher but still with a decent amount of torque.

Although top speed is fun, but taking ages to get there would be pointless. I'd probably end up buying a car instead, unless i was gonna do some stunting.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never really felt the urge to go really fast, I've done it before and yeah its cool but most the time on the roads I normally ride acceleration is the key. There is a lot of corners and a lot of braking and back onto the power. I could ride round at 60 max if my bike could get there in a silly quick time.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

To be honest not too worried as long as it feels fun. Most people would struggle to get within a second of the claimed standing quarter or even 0-60 times of their bikes.

That said if you have the power to accelerate quickly then you have the power to go pretty rapidly.

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PostPosted: 22:00 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the bike is small say, a 125 sports bike, you have got to ask yourself what you use the bike for, its no use gearing a bike down so it will only do 50 mph but it gets there real quick if you have to do 50 miles on a dual carriageway to work and back every day. If yoiu only use it for blatting round town fair enough.

If its a big bike, say a Blade (like mine), there comes a point when it gets a bit too hairy to gear it down any more because you just cant use the power anymore, coz it will just wheelie everywhere. It will still do over 140 but it just wants to lift all the time. Same as the 125 though, you have to think what you use the bike for. If you only blatt round town and do short hops, a geared down blade is great fun, not too good for the trip to the South of France or the 'Ring though. If you want both (like me), you could always go one up on the back and one or two down on the front, then just fit the standard front sprocket when you want to go for distance. It will still be slightly geared down but at least you will use less juice than running it fully geared down, throw the small front on when you get there and start wheelieing with the locals at the Jerez Moto GP. Your chain will have to be fairly new coz eventually you will run out of adjustment running the low gearing, unless you change the back one to match. 2 up on the back and two down on the front means the length of chain doesnt change between the low and high (standard) gearing
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 14 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my bike couldn't do over 100mph it wouldn't bother me as long as I could nail it and do stupid speeds from standing. I'd rather ride at the speed limit for years to come then lose my licence speeding anyway.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive down geared alot of the bikes ive had, gsxr 750, r6 etc yea it wheelys a bit more but its still controlable, more power were you realistically want it, and tbh ur not guna be doing 160mph + alot of the time anyway. Yea ok as luke mentioned its fun walking on porshes etc with the standard gearing, but downgearing ultimatley makes for a better road bike imo. Track, well that depends on were you are obviously. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think acceleration over all, but its nice being able to go stupid speeds too.

Why compromise, when you can have both Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 07:40 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairly academic thread topic for most bikes really. Most bikes over maybe 400cc have a decent combination of acceleration and top speed, certainly I've never found my NC30 wanting in performance for road use.

A good dollop of mid range poke is the key, roll on overtakes from 50-80mph etc.

I can't even imagine what a down geared fireblade would be like, surely the standard bike is plenty quick?
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Lets say.. (acceleration or top end) Reply with quote

Bike_craze1 wrote:
What do you prefer acceleration or top end? I don't mean top end as in going 160+mph I mean either having 0-60 in 5.5 seconds for acceleration but in doing so only being able to go 60.
Or a bike with a pretty bad acceleration and a top end of 100mph? what would you rather have?


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PostPosted: 08:49 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Lets say.. (acceleration or top end) Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Bike_craze1 wrote:
What do you prefer acceleration or top end? I don't mean top end as in going 160+mph I mean either having 0-60 in 5.5 seconds for acceleration but in doing so only being able to go 60.
Or a bike with a pretty bad acceleration and a top end of 100mph? what would you rather have?


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0-60 in 5.5 seems fast when you have a 125 Smile
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

v8will wrote:
I can't even imagine what a down geared fireblade would be like, surely the standard bike is plenty quick?


Yes, the standard bike is pretty quick but my mates have got New R1's and ZX10's. 160 bhp compared to my piddling 120. With the bike geared down its a match for them when blatting around. If very lairy.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for acceleration everytime - always brings out the grin factor for me. I enjoy big bikes with loads of torque for the shear grunt factor.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Most people would struggle to get within a second of the claimed standing quarter or even 0-60 times of their bikes.


I'd hope I could, but then again, I'm not typical as there's not a lot of chance of me flipping over or doing an unintentional burnout Rolling Eyes

I think that something with good spread of punchy torque and a max speed of 130mph (ie. allowing decent acceleration up to the ton) is probably good for the real world of roads.

Although some people do do it, a top speed of 160+mph is fairly academic.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Lets say.. (acceleration or top end) Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:

0-60 in 5.5 seems fast when you have a 125 Smile


In a car it is, but on a bike it feels quite pedestrian.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Lets say.. (acceleration or top end) Reply with quote

Acceleration - I can use/abuse that, silly top ends will just detroy my licence Sad

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PostPosted: 14:49 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

vee wrote:
I think acceleration over all, but its nice being able to go stupid speeds too.

Why compromise, when you can have both Twisted Evil


Just what I was thinking Thumbs Up

I prefer balls out acceleration, on bigger bike syou should be more interested in the 0-100mph time than the 60, or even 160 Laughing

I'd much prefer a bike that could quickly pick up from anything around 40/50/60 to a ton than a 0-60 blast anyday, real world and all that! I also like the option of not having to sit at 5k revs in top gear just to do 60 or 70 as Im getting old and its all getting too loud for me Wink
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends where you ride your bike really, useless having amazing top end you cant use and equally useless having a good 0-60 and once you get to 60 running out of go go
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC Bodge wrote:
I'd hope I could, but then again, I'm not typical as there's not a lot of chance of me flipping over or doing an unintentional burnout Rolling Eyes


You might be surprised.

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PostPosted: 20:07 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I bet you could even flip a CG with enough ham-fisted throttle and a snapped clutch cable!!

For some of you the top end may be a distant dream but if you live where theres plenty of space and little traffic police like me (where the general biking population hasnt already ruined it for everyone else Laughing ) the you can see clock speeds upwards of 170mph in 5th gear in very unremarkable situations with beautiful scenery around you!!
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 15 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean, its so easy to go extreeeemely fast on a big bike very quickly (if you know what i mean). I live in Stoke and me and a few friends would regularly get on the wrong side of 170 six or seven times on the way to the Stormy Petrel meet about 25 miles away. I thought it advisable to get rid of the 'Busa around that time as you can not afford to have 30% of your attention looking for the police when you are pushing on like we were.
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