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PostPosted: 23:19 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Joe Biden words of comfort Reply with quote

giving confidence to the American people and the rest of the world..looking towards a stable future..

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In a striking moment of candor, Joe Biden tells us would-be president Obama will face “an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions,” Matthew Jaffe reports on ABC News’ Political Radar blog. Speaking at a Seattle fundraiser, Biden said this “test” would likely unfold in the Middle East or Russia. It would likely be coupled with the economy.


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PostPosted: 00:53 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

International crises tend to be instigated by America which is why he can predict them, as he can plan them.

Th only reason we think Hitler was bad and American presidents are basically good, is that Hitler lost so didnt get to write the history books.

Ok Hitler was probably still worse, but Americans have done some pretty bad things by the CIA and backing or destabilising countries resulting in millions of deaths.

Whats the point in carrying a big stick if you dont hit people sometimes ?alone
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PostPosted: 06:11 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:

Ok Hitler was probably still worse.

Probably. What planet have you descended upon this morning Col?
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PostPosted: 06:27 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hitler had to start somewhere like every other scum fuck we have had the pleasure of dealing with throughout history,but hitler was different..he started off by increasing home land security against terroism and going to war in the name of protecting the nation..yes hitler was indeed very different
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hitler had to start somewhere like every other scum fuck we have had the pleasure of dealing with throughout history,but hitler was different..he started off by increasing home land security against terroism and going to war in the name of protecting the nation..yes hitler was indeed very different

Do not insult me. You obviously have no fucking idea of what Hitler was about.

Going to war in the name of protecting HIS nation?! Purlease. He went to war because he was about to create the Third Reich.

So, sticking Jews in concentration camps was to protect home land security in the name of terrorism. Thank god, I know more than you do.

Listen mate, you appear to know fuck all about current affairs and believe me, you have no fucking idea what happened in the past either.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do not insult me. You obviously have no fucking idea of what Hitler was about.

Going to war in the name of protecting HIS nation?! Purlease. He went to war because he was about to create the Third Reich.

So, sticking Jews in concentration camps was to protect home land security in the name of terrorism. Thank god, I know more than you do.

Listen mate, you appear to know fuck all about current affairs and believe me, you have no fucking idea what happened in the past either.


another great start to the day aided by a mouth throathing clueless ego driven lunatic..keep it coming boss..its great Laughing !!

adolf Hitler came to power in Germany in 1933 as a result of a democratic election process marked by backroom deals and political intrigues. At the time, Germany was facing a climate of extreme financial inflation and depression as a lingering result of the draconian sanctions imposed by the western allies at Versailles subsequent to the first world war. In order to solidify and consolidate overwhelming public support for Hitler's assumption of power, the Reichstag was burned to the ground and the Communists were blamed, leading the Nazis to declare a state of national emergency and institute an entire slate of draconian laws severely limiting the civil rights of all German citizens and institutions alike under the pretext of protecting national security.

history of Poland from 1939 to 1945 encompasses the German invasion of Poland through to the end of World War II. On September 1, 1939, without a formal declaration of war, Germany invaded Poland. Germany's pretext was that Polish troops had allegedly committed "provocations" along the German-Polish border, which was actually a staged attack by the Germans. Germany also used issues like the dispute between Germany and Poland over German rights to the Free City of Danzig and the freeing of a passage between East Prussia and the rest of Germany through the Polish Corridor as excuses for the invasion. Pursuant to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Poland was divided between Germany and the Soviet Union, which invaded eastern Poland on September 17, 1939.

you seriously think the people knew what Hitlers goals were?thank god you know more than i do Laughing you dont even know basic history and how hitler manipulated people to carry out his desires..then again you think right now the usa and uk is in iraq fighting terrorists to protect us.. class a fool i love it! Laughing Laughing

as said hitler had to start somewhere,and he did so using similar techniques as we are seeing in this day.. Middle Finger

and if you cant see the sarcasm in my post theres something wrong with your brain..the techniques hitler used are near identical to the techniques used by america today.. because hitler was very different to every other regime of scum in history Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:45 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you get your historical facts from? Encarta?

There are loads of reasons why Germany invaded Poland. To deny that it was a fabrication in part of an extended German Reich is ludicrous. To say it was fabricated in a way to evade terrorism is down right ridiculous.

Lets take a look at the timeline shall we? Firstly we have the Anschluss between Austria and Germany which was supported by 99.6% of the German nation, although forcibly with SS encouragement. Then we have the envelopement of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia that Hitler claimed were as German as anyone else in Germany. Obviously this then led to the capture of Prague and the rest of Czechoslovakia. Nothing to do with "Terrorism". Through appeasement Britain did sweet FA and so Hitler assumed he could get away with taking the Polish corridor back as it was a state created on the back of Versailles, separating mainland Germany and the former powerhouse of Prussia. Yet again, terrorism was not used as a motive, I have no idea where you get your facts from, but they are not evident in any of the books I have been reading for the past three years.

Yes, yes you are correct that the Reichstag was burned down in 1933, with blame put upon the communists the very next day and a emergency decree passed by Hindenburg, who remember was still president at the time. The coming of Hitler was arguably not down to his pure skill and use of propaganda. Hindenburg and Papen had both believed they had only "hired" Hitler as a chancellor. He had already built his success throughout Germany as the polls had suggested.

IT WAS ALSO a foregone conclusion that it was common knowledge that Hitler wanted a one party state. The German people had agreed to this. He told Papen in a meeting in Cologne late in 1932 that he wanted to abolish the democratic system in place in Germany at the time. The political atmosphere in Germany was completely different to that in Britain and America today. Germany as a nation was only 60 years old and had been under autocratic rule up until 1920. German people naturally understood one party leadership and so were willing to let Hitler guide them towards a third reich. Democracy as a whole had been a failure under the Weimar Republic.

80% of German's knew exactly what Hitlers goals were, it was the rest of the world that was oblivious.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are loads of reasons why Germany invaded Poland. To deny that it was a fabrication in part of an extended German Reich is ludicrous. To say it was fabricated in a way to evade terrorism is down right ridiculous.


stopped reading there.. a/ really cant be fucked with you b/only useful point you need to make.

again..get this into your head..im not saying hitler was out to protect his nation and fight terroism.. thats exactly the pretexted he used though..and thats exactly whats going on now..in our time.. i was being sarcastic saying he is different..he was no different to the shit the usa are pulling off today..and where did i get my information?standard history..may want to look into it some time.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 09:33 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:12 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you mean you can't be fucked as you know you know very little and the internet isn't proving very good help for your cause either.

Carry on believing I know fuck all, but trust me I know I know more than you do.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
No you mean you can't be fucked as you know you know very little and the internet isn't proving very good help for your cause either.

Carry on believing I know fuck all, but trust me I know I know more than you do.


i cant be fucked yea to talk with you yea. i don't believe you know fuck all, i know your missing parts of the overall picture though,you your self display this. to be honest i am not really here to debate with you who has the most knowledge,if it gives you a better day..take first prize Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Where do you get your historical facts from? Encarta?


No, he got it from here :-

https://www.adelaideinstitute.org/War/hitler.htm

and here :-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Poland
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got it from a history book many years ago..then google combined with two sentences this morning,

"hitler pretext national security"
"hitler war pretext national security"

took me to those pages,why does it matter where i get my information from? its common knowledge,what ego defect would one hold to play the " i know more than you card" "oh you copy and paste your information" of course i fucking do! have better things to do with my time then memorize word for word history texts so i can out do some guy on a internet forum and buzz because i know more than him..this information does not interest me,neither does the nwo..i would rather read shakespear..yes i rate it higher but hate it near as much.i do feel the need to be aware with whats going on though.

i say one sarcastic comment taking the piss out of the similarity's between hitler and what we see today and i get some tosser running in saying don't insult me,when the comment was not even directed at him,then he bangs on about how much he knows..and does not even know about the pretexts used.

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hitler had to start somewhere like every other scum fuck we have had the pleasure of dealing with throughout history,but hitler was different..he started off by increasing home land security against terroism and going to war in the name of protecting the nation..yes hitler was indeed very different


Hitler did have to start somewhere,and when you think of him you only see the end results..you cant really compare hitler to the NWO yet..because they are in the starting stages..of creating a police state in the interests of homeland security and going to war to protect there country..whats next? i guess one day they will be filling the FEMA concentration camps to protect there country
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke told CNN yesterday that Osama Bin Laden would attempt to influence the 2008 U.S. election with a terrorist attack or the release of a video tape, an October surprise to replicate that of 2004 when Bin Laden swung the election for Bush.

“At the moment, as far as I can tell, the FBI, other intelligence agencies, do not have any credible information that would lead them to believe an attack might take place. Why are we asking this, though?” said Clarke.

“Because in 2004, bin Laden did try to influence the US election. Whether or not he succeeded, who knows? But he issued a video tape on Halloween, a few days before the election, that implied that he supported Senator Kerry.”

“He knew, that if he seemed to be supporting Senator Kerry, that would help President Bush. And it did.”

“So, we know he likes to try to influence elections,” said Clarke. “So, we can look forward to perhaps another video tape like that, or an attack.


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replicate that of 2004 when Bin Laden swung the election for Bush.
bin laden helped bush win?>

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He knew, that if he seemed to be supporting Senator Kerry, that would help President Bush. And it did


he likes to influence elections and he supports bush?
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

mad_man wrote:
..he was no different to the shit the usa are pulling off today..and where did i get my information?standard history..may want to look into it some time.


yes exactly

the americans have caused many more million deaths by causing mass murder in other nations,

they do it to increase their power and decrease the power of their rivals

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Hermann Goering at his Nuremburg trial.

to be fair hitler was only about for a few years, so if he had been about a bit longer, he could well have outdone stalin, chinese dictators and american presidents

Hitler was a man with a vision and was willing to do whatever was necessary no matter how many lives it cost, a bit like Nixon.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7692751.stm

so finally the west catches up

Laughing Laughing beyond pathetic most dumbed down nation ever on this planet
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 29 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah but georgian forces were provoked by russian backed terrorists in that region who are fighting for it to be separate from georgia

by provoking the over reaction, russia can step in and take the land
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 29 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The Georgian government launched a major military operation into Tskhinvali [the capital of South Ossetia] and other areas of that separatist region,"
"Regrettably, several Russian peacekeepers were killed in the fighting,"

Georgian forces sneaked attacked and killed russian peace keepers,trained and funded by the USA,false flag gone wrong


Russian Forces Leave Parts of Western Georgia Ahead of Deadline.
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