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tompos
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Bike Corrosion - How can it be stopped? Reply with quote

I have had a Bandit 600 for a few months now, and as i don't have a garage it sits outside permenantly, and will do so over the winter.
Plus i ride it every day, whatever the weather.

I have been told that Suzys, and paticularly Bandits don't respond well to this sort of treatment, paticularly salt and grit on the road etc.

Can anyone advise on how worried i should be about this and what can be done to minimise the damage?
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Kal
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Bike Corrosion - How can it be stopped? Reply with quote

Vaselene on exposed chrome work is supposed to help, semi regular cleaning and rinsing the salt off

Bang a waterproof - breathable - cover over it when it is at home.

Can't think of anything else right now.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually spray most of the parts with WD40 to avoid winter corrosion...there are loads of products out there that can be used...do a google search. Or ask at the local suzuki dealership for their advice...
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of my bikes have had the luxury of a garage,

They all live outside and i never wash them,

Supposedly ACF50 applied liberally after a good clean will see you through winter.

I use an oxford stormex cover or something similar, I try to put it on when the bikes dry, If i come back from a ride and its still raining, ill leave it out there, hope for a gap in the rain rush out with a rag and the cover, dry it as best as possible and hope for the best....

So many people advocate doing their own spannering and maintenence/cleaning they really dont know the pain of living on a second floor flat where the bike has no access to water/ light or somewhere to sit and work on it...

One day i will live in a home with a garage...
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

FS365 apply after each ride,

My NTV is caked in crud as it sticks to dirt and forms a protective layer around it so goes the blurb.
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tompos
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all this Smile

I think a cover is definitely on my list when i've got a bit of money to spend one one.

I have heard the name FS365 before, I assume since your recommending it, it has worked for you. What exactly is this stuff?

And what is ACF50?
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really use it almost everyday I wouldn't worry about a cover.
They can be counter-productive, rubbing paint and trapping damp underneath.
If it were parked up for days at a time it would be sensible to cover it especially if done dry and combined with the spray on treatments suggested.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:25 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
I usually spray most of the parts with WD40


Exclamation if i ever see a fireball coming down the road on two wheels I'll at least know who it is...
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

replace the cheap nickel plated bolts and nuts with stainless steel. Ebay is a good place for cheap stainless. Go for A4 over A2 when there is a choice but A2 is ok.
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Itchy
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

tompos wrote:
Thanks for all this Smile

I think a cover is definitely on my list when i've got a bit of money to spend one one.

I have heard the name FS365 before, I assume since your recommending it, it has worked for you. What exactly is this stuff?

And what is ACF50?


Since extreme3d has now retired from this forum , looks like I'm going to have to explain it....

ACF50 is Aircraft formula 50 or something , it was supposed to be used on aircraft on carriers, which is a tad moot since aircraft are made from aluminium and titanium. ACF50 doesn't neutralise salt though. I have little faith in it since Jim tested it out and it didn't work very well , and the fact that you apply it infrequently so even though its resistant to being washed off it does wash off and what protects your bike nothing. its also £15-£20 a can.


FS365 is a scottoiler type spray which you apply onto your hot bike (it sizzles but it used water as flux) after each ride, this neutralises the salt , and sort of reacts with crud and thus if it doesn't rain you get a protective layer of crud covering your entire bike...you wash the crud layer off at the end of the week.

It washes off though come the rain but then again you just reapply it, you can go superduper with it like on my NTV where I never wash it and thus although the surface looks terribly dirty the under neath metal is forever encased in a layer of crud...

My NTV water pump guard is completely surrounded by a thin layer of crud , you can wash it off (needs scrubbing) and it appears completely uncoroded underneath..

its £5 per a 500ml spray bottle of £30 for 4 or 5 litres, since you a 500ml bottle will last 2-3 months.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bmwbikebits.co.uk/images/ACF50.jpg

That is all.

We've been applying it to all of our new bikes at work for about 18 months now and corrosion warranty claims have dropped to 0.

It is expensive but you don't need much and it doesn't wash off so a can lasts ages.
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tompos
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the detailed info Itchy Thumbs Up

FS365 sounds like the stuff but i'll have to try both before passing judgement on them, ACF50 sounds intriguing too Razz

Although I guess the best way to stop my bike getting corroded is to find somewhere inside to put it Sad
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

tompos wrote:
Thanks for the detailed info Itchy Thumbs Up

FS365 sounds like the stuff but i'll have to try both before passing judgement on them, ACF50 sounds intriguing too Razz

Although I guess the best way to stop my bike getting corroded is to find somewhere inside to put it Sad


For me ACF 50 (Anti Corrosion Formula) is the only way to go for the 'lazier' amongst us. Idea is you clean your bike, coat all the relevant bits in ACF (easiest is to spray on a cloth and wipe it on - KEEP AWAY FROM BRAKES!!!) and then do nothing for a few months. Bike gets dirtier and dirtier but ACF still protecting. Then clean it all off again and start again.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACF50. The reason why a lot of old planes are still in the air Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

More info on ACF-50 if you click here including where you can buy it/have it applied (scroll to bottom and click link there).

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