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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Are brake pads like tyres? Reply with quote

Will different pads make the bike brake differently just as a tyre can have a difference on the way a bike handles.

Are some better for track / high speed braking, some for everyday use in all conditions compared to others that are made for longevity?

I know nothing about pads, for that I apologise, but I will need some before winter properly kicks off.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Are brake pads like tyres? Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Will different pads make the bike brake differently just as a tyre can have a difference on the way a bike handles.

Are some better for track / high speed braking, some for everyday use in all conditions compared to others that are made for longevity?

I know nothing about pads, for that I apologise, but I will need some before winter properly kicks off.


firstly - Disclaimer: Ignore everything i say Wink.

Assuming it's for a road bike and not offroad then just buy some hh (sintered) pads. for a road bike i'd either buy from one of the big companies, ebc or similar or go buy someones reccomendation on here (me personally, i'm lazy and i'd give sickpup a PM. THink he said he only gets sintered's. There's fuck all difference moneywise and you should notice a decent difference. (although some people do say don't put sintereds on the back as they just knacker the disk... Dunno tbh but i like being able to stop...... Mr. Green.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They make a difference. Sintered pads tend to work better at the expense of more rapid disk wear (whether it is a worthwhile change is another question, with my RS125 they made a massive difference, with the 1200 Bandit they made a minor difference, with the Bimota they made no difference in the dry but were lethal in the wet). Different makes also work differently, and last differently (had some Armstrong pads in the Bandit and they worked pretty well and last twice as long as EBC pads, but went very wooden feeling at the end of their life yet still had loads of material left on them).

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PostPosted: 10:48 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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They make a difference. Sintered pads tend to work better at the expense of more rapid disk wear (whether it is a worthwhile change is another question, with my RS125 they made a massive difference, with the 1200 Bandit they made a minor difference, with the Bimota they made no difference in the dry but were lethal in the wet). Different makes also work differently, and last differently (had some Armstrong pads in the Bandit and they worked pretty well and last twice as long as EBC pads, but went very wooden feeling at the end of their life yet still had loads of material left on them).

All the best

Keith


I presume the sintered pads are harder (or feel harder atleast) so they feel less "spongey" when using 'em?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nope. Sintered pads have some metal in the pad material. This should work well to clear water from the disk (but on the Bimota they were lethal in the wet).

Should make no difference at all to how spongy the brakes feel. That is basically down to the condition of the brake fluid, ratio of lever movement to piston movement, rigidity of the caliper and condition of the brake lines.

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PostPosted: 11:03 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sintered sounds good.

I remember from somewhere in the dark depths of the forum that someone mentioned that changing the pads made a huge difference to the braking efficiency of their bike. Based on the fact that the 6 pots on the 7 are never going to be tip top for stopping, an aggressive pad may help somewhat.

Disc abuse, not really too fussed about that.

Before winter, before the bike goes on eBay, it really needs new brakes so it won't be in my possession for too long to really notice any downsides.

The current ones in the callipers have done 8,000 miles with me in 12 months , cleaned as once covered in brake fluid due to the seals going so need changing as part of the yearly service I suppose.

EBC, HH... is it all about budget?
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djr
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

EBC, HH... is it all about budget?


Just look on m&p under braking it'll give you an idea of price range, standard are about as cheap as you'll get, sintered's are about the most expensive i doubt for a set of pads they'll be much more then a 5ver in it so just go for some quality ones, only time i'd buy cheap pads is for an offroad bike where the brakes are more likely to seize in my opinion (and if i'm going to the effort of unseizing them i'd do the pads at the same time.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am no expert either but I would stick a set of sintered pads in.

Dont think there is a lot of difference in any of them.

I have always used Ebc,ferodo,dp or bendix and found all ok through winter or summer.

My mate had ebc-hh pads on his 7 ninja and he said the ebcs had a bit of a lag before they would bite but I would put that down to the state of calipers & old fluid.

I always found the brakes I had on my previous 2 bikes (tokico 6 pots) went pretty shitty & wooden through winter & needed a strip & clean & bled often to get best out of them.

I found changing the seals in the calipers often & fitting a different master cylinder helped alot.

As I said before I am no expert and theres probably someone more qualified than me to give better advice.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 29 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just answered own question

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PostPosted: 20:01 - 29 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ordred some EBC HH sintered front and EBC organic rear.

Thanks for all the input guys and gals.
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