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adilxs
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: YBR125 back light problem Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just recently got a 07 ybr125. It seems the back light is not working, the one that should be on all the time.

The brake light is working fine.

Can anyone tell me which is the light that stays on all the time, as there are 2 lights at the back, the top one is brake so im guessing the bottom one should be on all the time.

Anyone know how to replace the bulb in the bottom one?

thanks,

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PostPosted: 17:22 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the lights switched on? I.e your headlights

I take it by "bottom one" etc you've had the rear light cover off and inspected the bulbs. If so, it should be apparent how to take the bottom bulb out and replace it.
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adilxs
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

the lights stay on all the time on the ybr, there are 2 serperate lights at back, the brake at top, and then a light at bottom which i dont know how to open!
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it's a light and not the reflector? Not trying to insult you here.

Is the top bulb dual filament like
https://www.mgcycle.com/172091157.JPG

Or is it single filament like
https://www.carlofet.com/store/images/DSC01797.JPG

If it's dual filament then one filament will be on with the rear light and then the other one will come on as a supplement when the brake pedal is pressed.

If it's single filament then that bottom "light" is probably as you say a bulb for the brake light.
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adilxs
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, yeah i think the bottom one must be reflector as i took the bulb out the top and it has 2 filaments, one which works (brake) the other is broken so getting replaced tomorrow!!!

thanks alot for your help, i checked manual but didnt really help me.

the bulb is: p21/5w

Where would i get this from? Petrol stations or will I have to go to a bike shop?

thanks again.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adilxs wrote:
hi, yeah i think the bottom one must be reflector as i took the bulb out the top and it has 2 filaments, one which works (brake) the other is broken so getting replaced tomorrow!!!

thanks alot for your help, i checked manual but didnt really help me.

the bulb is: p21/5w

Where would i get this from? Petrol stations or will I have to go to a bike shop?

thanks again.
Go to a little car shop and tell them you want a dual filament stop/tail bulb, they will know what you mean (lots of cars use the same type). Get yourself two, so you have a spare as well, they don't last forever.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure, but if you take the old bulb in to a bike shop they'd be able to give you a replacement, they'll know exactly what it is you see - just tell them that you need a new rear light bulb and hand the old one to them.

You're welcome mate, glad to be of help!
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adilxs
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, picked one up for local petty station!
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure the rear light is on all the time? I've never noticed this on my ybr - headlight, yes,. But The rearlight is only on when on "full beam" (i.e. not default dipped).

Does the rear light come on when you put it on full beam? (note, you'll probably need to warm the engine up for this as the light won't come on until the bikes running).Now try the brakes: the red light is even brighter. That's what your two bulbs are for.

A rearlight that was on constantly would be pointless during day.

I think you're doing what we all do when we get new bikes: honing in on imaginary problems!

Still, at least you've got a spare bulb now!
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adilxs
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not an imaginary problem, because its working now!

the light wouldnt even come on, on full beam.

There has to be a rear light always on, think about when your riding at night, you'll be hard to notice from the back without any lights. You cant ride about on full beam as it blinds other users.

think there must be something up with your ybr.

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PostPosted: 23:17 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adilxs wrote:
its not an imaginary problem, because its working now!

the light wouldnt even come on, on full beam.

There has to be a rear light always on, think about when your riding at night, you'll be hard to notice from the back without any lights. You cant ride about on full beam as it blinds other users.

think there must be something up with your ybr.

adilxs


He meant main beam, as opposed to full beam. Instead of just parking lights (or dipped).

Different people use different terms, it's confusing isn't it?
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 27 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just been looking at the YBR125 Owners Manual.
It only has one light switch.
It only has 2 positions.
Yamaha call it a dimmer switch.
One position they call High Beam
The other position they call Low Beam

There are no other light switches.
Not even a on or off.

So if that persons rear light is off on Low Beam and on with High Beam its wrong.
If you get caught in the dark the police will pull you over.
It will also fail an MOT.
Guess which country the bikes made in.
Yep China.
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PostPosted: 04:51 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you mean Japan? Yamaha is not Chinese.
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PostPosted: 06:49 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yamaha is japanese.

but tbh, i cant seem to understand why chinese = low quality.

Alot of the stuff we use is made in china anyway.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

alun111 wrote:
Don't you mean Japan? Yamaha is not Chinese.


Do you really think all Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki bikes are made in Japan?

If you do you are very wrong.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are not assembled in Japan, but that doesn't mean they aren't Japanese. Yamaha is a Japanese company and the bikes they make are Japanese bikes, regardless of where the bits were put together!
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adilxs
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

luke27 wrote:
alun111 wrote:
Don't you mean Japan? Yamaha is not Chinese.


Do you really think all Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki bikes are made in Japan?

If you do you are very wrong.


so what is your point? Confused
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syx wrote:
They are not assembled in Japan, but that doesn't mean they aren't Japanese. Yamaha is a Japanese company and the bikes they make are Japanese bikes, regardless of where the bits were put together!


Your thinking of cars.
Nissan Micra cars might be assembled in the UK but nearly all the parts are not made in the UK.

Its not the same for bikes.
Especially the 125cc cheap commuter type bikes.

The Yamaha YBR125 sold in the UK is made in China.
Nearly all the parts are made in China.
The factory is massive and makes nearly all the parts in house.

The same can be said about the Honda CG125 sold in the UK.
Its made in Brazil in a massive factory that makes nearly every part in house.
The factory makes well over 1 million Honda CG motorbikes a year.
Of course things like spark plug, battery, tyres are often made some ware else but the majority of the bike is made in brazil.

If you do not belive me look at a bike or ask a motorcycle dealer.
Its very common knowledge.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think what syx is trying to get across is, that even tho its "put toghther" in china, its japanse in the sense that the company that designed it is a japanses company.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adilxs wrote:
i think what syx is trying to get across is, that even tho its "put toghther" in china, its japanse in the sense that the company that designed it is a japanses company.


I take your point.

But saying a bike is japanese in design and made in china is not saying very much.

How many Honda CG125 clones are made in china.
They are japanese designs.

Before anyone else starts another argument I am not saying the YBR125 is as bad as a Honda CG125 clone.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 28 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

luke27 wrote:
adilxs wrote:
i think what syx is trying to get across is, that even tho its "put toghther" in china, its japanse in the sense that the company that designed it is a japanses company.


I take your point.

But saying a bike is japanese in design and made in china is not saying very much.

How many Honda CG125 clones are made in china.
They are japanese designs.

Before anyone else starts another argument I am not saying the YBR125 is as bad as a Honda CG125 clone.


I think the difference here is that Chinese clone bikes are made to a budget, with materials THEY choose. The YBR for example - even though it may have it's parts made in China and assembled in China - does not mean to say it's materials, and quality control is not governed by Yamaha in Japan - therefore probably making it completely different in quality of materials used, and in reflection - price.
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