This Ross and Brand thing

[UnknownStuntm...]

pa - I respect your opinion and the way you've put it above I can't disagree with you at all.

What frustrates me is that the BBC have previously had a good name for quality, and frankly I don't see these two jigging about and making prank phone calls as a quality effort. Certainly doesn't justify JW's multi million deal.

Take a look at Fawlty Towers for example. Not just because of who was in it, but it was and still is a quality production. The Office was another. It's one thing to be risky and 'edgy' by pushing the boundaries, but I cannot fathom what the decision makers were thinking of when they ok'd this for a radio show.

And don't get me started on the Moyles show. Oh you didn't mention it? Good...

[TheDonUK]

What i find really funny about the whole thing is that a couple of years ago i was living over in north west london and a mate of mine goes to rock clubs/goth clubs etc and i remember him telling me at the time this girl georgie who was a cage dancer had been all over him, got his number etc, but as he had just started out with his current girl (of 4 years now) he dident do anything with her...

He picked up the metro the other day to see the very same girl in the middle of this whole issue...

His claim to fame, good enough for brand but not good enough for him...

Seems shes a bit frisky is old georgina...
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[killa]

You've got a male slut, Brand
A bellend, Ross
A flirty, rock chic of a famous guy, Georgie
And faulty towers pensioner

The comedians try a joke on him, it's not funny.

I really have NO idea why any one is carrying this on. It's a fuc*in waste of time.
As for Brand quitting the show i think that's weak.
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[Dom]

Seems to me this whole thing is a pretty damning indictment of how stupid most of the people in this country are. Brand and Ross are coarse, tactless fuckwits - always. There is no story here. If you don't like them they're perfectly avoidable, you just press the power button on the life support machine/TV and they go away. Clearly the bloke from Fawlty Towers is capable of being offended on his own so there's no need to do it for him.

What is truly pathetic is that this has apparently the most important thing happening in the world for the past week or so. And it doesn't appear to be questioned at all. Nobody's complaining. I looked on the Beeb's HYS section the other day and expected to see the 'readers recommend' comments full of 'put some real news on' type comments. But they're not. There's just page after page of high and mighty arseholes insisting that they were oh-so-offended when in actual fact they would never have known or cared about the non-event had the media not waved it in their faces underneath leading headlines for days.

Then you look at the numbers: A HYS topic on the recession has 2,092 comments whereas 33,670 people felt compelled to provide their insightful views on a couple of hairy, unfunny, attention seekers who did something about 2% more offensive than normal. In other words, the British people are sixteen times more interested in a prank phone call than the fact they'll be unable to pay their own phone bills in 12 months time.

Excuse the rant, but like Hellkat I have been trying to convince myself that people aren't that stupid for such a long time, so it comes as a bit of a shock to learn that in actual fact it's a miracle that most people manage to tie their shoes in the morning.

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[Mister James]

They are both twats; while both are quite witty - they are also boorish and offensive - Woss is also exceptionally arrogant, even by my standards!

While most of those complaining did not listen to the show, they are all assumedly license fee-payers, and thus are entitled to express their opinions on how their money is being spent. Had the show been aired by a channel that wasn't publicly funded I don't think 99% of the people whining would have a leg to stand on. However, as they have indirectly and involuntarily funded this drivel, I think they have a right to complain about its content now that they have been made aware of it.

They are both twats.

As I said on my thread in Random Banter - I can't believe that the PM had the cheek to express his opinion on the matter. As little as I give a toss about Ross and Brand, I care even less for what Brown has to say about them. Get back to screwing my country up you useless nob-gobbler!
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[meach]

Am i right in thinking Brand (definitely) and Ross (possibly) have just released new books.
I'm sure the publicity will help sales
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[Shaun]

I personally find Russell brand entertaining but he's a bit of a loose cannon when allowed to run wild, his previous co-host was there to keep Russell in check, he'd slow him down before he went past the line and everything would be fine.

Listening to the recordings Jonathan was egging him on, he started the whole thing by randomly shouting out that Russell had shagged his granddaughter. Russell then goes off on one about how Jonathan has messed it up and it's a disaster, he then decides he can fix it with another phone call, which Jonathan eggs him on to do and again a third time.

This never should've been broadcast, all of this hassle could've been avoided by not broadcasting it, something which the producer should've known, it's his job to stop hideously offensive stuff from going out.

Fair play to Russell for stepping down, if I was him I would do the same, I imagine he can live perfectly well without the 200k, firing Jonathan would be pointless, another channel would snap him up within a day!

[pa_broon74]

In terms of people being stupid, we can now assume that not only are they to stupid to change the channel or turn their TV's off, they're so fucking stupid that they will go out of there way to be offended. Why would I eat peanuts when I know they give me the boak?

It defies logic. Remember that pet hospital drivel that used to be on at dinner time? No way do I want to see a cat being neutered as I tuck into my meatballs, why the hell would I then deliberately watch it then complain about it a week later??

[JonB]

[Mister James]

[Phoenix]

I think the outcome so far has been fairly appropriate for the incident, ie Brand resigning and the Radio2 head, all that's left is for that useless overpaid twat Ross to quit aswell.

Brand is well known to be slightly outrageous, though I think doing what he did to a bloke of 79 or so is overstepping the mark. Jonathan Ross is paid so much money for so little that he should be extremely careful about anything he does, if it was any ordinary job they'd both of been sacked, when you get 6million a year one big mistake like this is all it should take to get the boot.

I heard on the radio that Gordon Brown had broken off from International talks to comment on the situation, if that's true then it shows what a bunch of morons they are. I doubt it's been blown out of all proportion to cover something up, if they want to keep something quiet they just wont mention it or they will as they know there's nothing anyone can or will do anyway.

[Walloper]

Who the fcuk is Wussel Bwand anyway?
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[pa_broon74]

[Mister James]

You really don't get it, do you?

They are publicly funded by a tax on owning a TV - as such, their actions are open to public scrutiny, including mine.

Watch what you like - just don't expect it to be blindly funded by me.

[UnknownStuntm...]

Just had a txt forwarded to me:

[AJI]

Here's what I posted on the matter in another forum, minus the swearing, for my poor karma:

[djr]

Personally i think Jonathan is a cock... Russell is a funny bloke and he didn't actually say anything (untill the 2nd, mebbe third phone call with the song which did maybe go a little bit over the top... and maybe when he said i'll do anything i'll wear a condom lol...).


<edit...> I hate you, went off to look at some other threads and saw https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=159681&highlight= "Tell Jonathan Ross he's a bell end" and nearly wet meself with laughter... Truth hurts you know </edit>

[Shaun]

It all seems to have settled down a bit now.

Russell has come out of this ok, I heard a lot of people talking about his channel 4 show and how funny it was on friday, more so than probably would've watched it if he hadn't been in the headlines so much. Russell has always been a comedian who says stuff he shouldn't, he's come out of this on top really, I read Lovefilm have recorded a 133% increase in rentals of his dvd's!

Jonathan however has become a bit screwed by this, he doesn't have channel 4 backing him, he isn't known as being outrageous, the more people who hear the recording and realise him shouting that out started it all, the more damage that is done to his reputation.

Russell will no just go play in some Hollywood films, continue his ponderland show and do some stand up, his wallet won't be touched. Jonathan has lost 1.5mil in wages already and stepped down from hosting the comedy awards, it'll take a lot of work for him to come out of this ok.

[Mister James]

[AJI]

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