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PostPosted: 20:56 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Using choke as cruise control... Reply with quote

Ok, just an idea I was wondering about.

With winter setting in and me being too tight to buy heated grips I like to ride with my hands (one at a time obviously) on my lovely and warm cylinder head. This is fine for the clutch hand but as yet I haven't been able to master controlling the throttle with my clutch hand so I was wondering if I had the choke on whilst my throttle hand was warming up on the head would it cause any damage at all, short term/long term etc?

I wouldn't actually be using the throttle while the choke was on as my hand would be on the head warming up and after I'd put my hand back on the bars I'd knock the choke off.

Thanks in advance Smile
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: Using choke as cruise control... Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
Ok, just an idea I was wondering about.

With winter setting in and me being too tight to buy heated grips I like to ride with my hands (one at a time obviously) on my lovely and warm cylinder head. This is fine for the clutch hand but as yet I haven't been able to master controlling the throttle with my clutch hand so I was wondering if I had the choke on whilst my throttle hand was warming up on the head would it cause any damage at all, short term/long term etc?

I wouldn't actually be using the throttle while the choke was on as my hand would be on the head warming up and after I'd put my hand back on the bars I'd knock the choke off.

Thanks in advance Smile


Don't do it, the rich mixture will wash the bores of oil, which could potentially cause engine damage.

Just... no.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would probably start to foul your plug after extended choke-age. Obviously it would use more fuel too. Might coke up your exhaust a bit. Couple of things I suppose. To be honest I'd rather have cold hands than ride with the choke on. Razz
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eeep! Ok I'll skip that then!

Is there anything else I could try that's simple? Maybe putting an elastic band between the grip and throttle body? Seems to be asking for trouble that though...

I don't get many traffic lights on my commute which is the only other time I can put my throttle hand on the head.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn the idle up, I rode my bike with the idle turned up for 30 miles after I snapped a throttle cable.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not get sum gloves?? if youve already got sum, then get a cheap pair of magic (£1)gloves and wear them under the others ones
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

joop200789 wrote:
why not get sum gloves??


Laughing


Yeah, cause he's CLEARLY riding around gloveless... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

as said. on no account ride with the choke on. it will wash oil from the bores.

a little truth from about 20 years ago::::

a woman of about 60 brought herself a brand new VW Polo, she drove off all delighted with her new car. 3 weeks later she took it back for a service and the mechanics noticed it was smoking a lot.
the engine was diagnosed as completely worn out so a new one was fitted.
a few weeks after that she went into the VW dealership with complaints that the car was smoking too much.
the mechanic went to check it and saw that she was using the choke knob to hang her handbag from.

that is a true story Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have gloves...

I've tried riding with gloves under gloves but that just failed miserably and I'm too tight/broke to spend out on new gloves or heated grips otherwise I'd of done that by now.

mr_fisty wrote:
Turn the idle up, I rode my bike with the idle turned up for 30 miles after I snapped a throttle cable.


Will this have the same effect as riding with the choke on?

Looks like I'm going to have to perfect my clutch hand throttle action then! I'll have to remember not to hang my handbag from my choke lever aswell Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year someone was selling heated grips for £20. If thats too much then get some muffs.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 30 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of interest, can it cause a problem occasionally riding with the choke on by accident? I've been known to do 40 or 50 miles before without realising. Obviously not very often.
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
Just out of interest, can it cause a problem occasionally riding with the choke on by accident? I've been known to do 40 or 50 miles before without realising. Obviously not very often.


if its ok now then no damage was done. just get into the habit of checking it.

i have annoying habits of checking my seat hump is still there every now and then and constantly cancelling the indicator switch Rolling Eyes

as a general rule i will only ride a bike from cold if the choke is nearly in, i cant bring myself to ride them with the choke on Confused

i dont have chokes any more though Razz
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately mine has a dodgy Kawasaki choke that needs to be on while riding for the bike to warm up properly.

I've warmed it up for 10 minutes before and it still stalled when I took the choke off Laughing
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

KLR600 wrote:
Eeep! Ok I'll skip that then!

Is there anything else I could try that's simple? Maybe putting an elastic band between the grip and throttle body? Seems to be asking for trouble that though...

I don't get many traffic lights on my commute which is the only other time I can put my throttle hand on the head.



An elastic band is too weak, you need to use a loop (make it oval shaped, its easier to control then) of metal coat-hanger wire.

Works fine for everyone i know who does it.


Or alternatively you could just move the rubber grip so far up the tube that it rubs on the switchgear and doesn't automatically roll off.



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PostPosted: 07:57 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I constantly cancel my indicators too, and check my seat hump as it decided to make a bid for freedom on the M8 one night.

rotax81 wrote:
TheBassJunky wrote:
Just out of interest, can it cause a problem occasionally riding with the choke on by accident? I've been known to do 40 or 50 miles before without realising. Obviously not very often.


if its ok now then no damage was done. just get into the habit of checking it.

i have annoying habits of checking my seat hump is still there every now and then and constantly cancelling the indicator switch Rolling Eyes

as a general rule i will only ride a bike from cold if the choke is nearly in, i cant bring myself to ride them with the choke on Confused

i dont have chokes any more though Razz

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PostPosted: 08:21 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:
checking my seat hump is still there every now and then

Ever since mine gave me the shock of my life my hitting me in the small of the back under braking at Mallory, I have also developed this habit. When the tailpack is on too, I get paranoid about it falling off (even though it's never moved so far as a couple of inches) and check even more often!
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PostPosted: 08:23 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can be bothered, relocate the idle adjuster to somewhere near your handlebars, then you can crank it up for cruise control when required.

Whacking the idle up is just the same as opening the throttle, unlike the choke which enrichens the mixture disproportionately.

Or buy an Aprilia RSV, it has an idle adjuster on the left handlebar, goes all the way up to about 4k Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you get they heat pads things. I used to use them for the golf its like the size of a tea bag and they are not dear about 50p or something.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could go for one of these.

https://www.brakeawayproducts.com/

Although heated grips would be cheaper. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a throttle tube as fitted to 50's and 60's British bikes, they have a friction screw which you can adjust, so that the throttle will stick in the place its left at, this was useful when turning right whilst signaling with your arm.
Other bikes might of used them, but I have only seen them on old bikes.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:53 - 31 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie stokes wrote:
Get a throttle tube as fitted to 50's and 60's British bikes, they have a friction screw which you can adjust, so that the throttle will stick in the place its left at, this was useful when turning right whilst signaling with your arm.
Other bikes might of used them, but I have only seen them on old bikes.


A badly adjusted two-wire throttle has the same effect. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 01 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
jamie stokes wrote:
Get a throttle tube as fitted to 50's and 60's British bikes, they have a friction screw which you can adjust, so that the throttle will stick in the place its left at, this was useful when turning right whilst signaling with your arm.
Other bikes might of used them, but I have only seen them on old bikes.


A badly adjusted two-wire throttle has the same effect. Laughing


Taking out the slack from the cables will cause the engine to rev when you turn the bars full-lock though.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 02 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mrmotorcycles.co.nz/images/egos%20-%20no%20clamp.jpg

Can get cheap ones for £10. I've got some for mine, but they don't fit around my brake lever . . Crying or Very sad
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