Help... I've superglued my helmet.

[Mac_Black]

As if my day has'nt been bad enough what with all the problems with the RVF when I need it least...

I've had a breath guard slotted into my Condor for ages that I sourced from a crappy shark or something like that, tonight as I was doing a spring clean I thought I might aswell carefully glue it into place.

The cunting Locktite despenser would'nt dispense much glue at all, so I cut down the nozzle and still... no, then I put it in my mouth like a twat to see if I could put abit more pressure on.
Then an unthinkable/ very predictable horror takes place when the glue decides to finally explode all over the kitchen table.

Like a twat I run straight for the sink to clean it off of my breathe gaurd and hands, then I think to check the helmet
https://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243/MacKaliba/Helmetmess.jpg

I first used the scouring end of a kitchen sponge to try and get it off to no avail, scratched it abit but not bothered...
Then figuring that if the glue has done any damage I might aswell try whitespirit to atleast clean it up, No Win.

Cut to the chase:I asked my dad and he seems to think its ok as its fiber glass... but I'm pretty sure that as the insist you don't put stickers on helmets for the reason that they can break down the structure... Surely the glue has fucked it?
Is this helmet any good to me anymore or does it need replacing?

[Mr Nice Guy]

Crappy Shark?

Shark lids are far from crappy you spoon. And no I don't have one, have an Arai at the moment.
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[chris-red]

You can get de bonder stuff, thats what I use when I superglue my fingers together, it disoves the glue.

Shark make cheap crappy lids and more expensive decent ones as I remember.
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[Mac_Black]

Yes Ariel I think I could be a strong nominee for that award
In my defence though this is the end result of 3 weeks of building pressure, sleep deprivation, stress, picking my mind apart and general contributing factors to fucking things up.

...and MR Nice Guy, I will not catergorically state that is was of a crappy shark lid but it might possibly have been... I know Shark do have some utter crap

[Mac_Black]

Oh yeh back on topic... I'm really nto bothered about the glue being on there, well I am a bit.
What I'm really worried about is will the glue be likely to cuase structural damage to the lid?

[Mudskipper]

[MattHirst]

Acetone is very good at de-sticking superglue. If you want to be careful as its a lid try nail varnish remover (contains acetone) but is basically a watered down version. Simply soak a bit of kitchen roll and wipe it off and then wipe with a clean bit of kitchen roll afterwards.

Might leave it a bit 'cloudy' as it could affect the laquer but just autoglym it back to its former shinyness

You should get someone to confirm whether it is safe to use acetone, or an acetone based (or any solvent for that matter) on a helmet as i don't know. Also don't hold me responsbile if your lid melts into a little blob on your table
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[rotax81]

i wont have anything but a shark

stickers wont degrade a fibreglass/kevlar helmet. thats the polycarbonate ones you are thinking about.

as for the glue on your helmet. if you got a decent shark in the first place

while we are on the subject of superglue. my mate broke his tooth once and temporarily superglued it in for the night out. it lasted 4 years
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[flossi46]

theres a solution you can buy from boots or superdrug for removing false nails, it melts the glue without being harsh.

nail varnish remover will ruin the finish on the helmet, like it did my table! the nail remover won't.

just soak a cotton wool ball and hold it over the glue, don't rub.

not that i have ever superglued a helmet!
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[The Tot]

Err, the lid is actually an arai condor.

Superglue is OK. The lid should not be structurally compromised.. had a lecture on composite materials today and there was a long presentation about volumetric ratio of fibre reinforcement materials and polymer matrices. Basically, the lids have been designed to exceed the critical volumetric ratio whereby the glass fibre offers reinforcement properties beyond a specific filler/matrix ratio. So that's the theory of it.

... Any glue that you're adding is "additional matrix material"

I'm not too sure what the polymer resin/matrix is for fibreglass motorcycle lids since it could be polyester or epoxy based. Needless to say, i'd be wary about putting any sort of solvents on the lid in case it may damage the matrix. Alcolysis, solvolysis is basically the breakdown of any polymeric material, be it thermoplastics or thermosets (in this case the resin binder) using solvents so i'd be cautious. It's an industrial process used in secondary recycling, but on a small scale, I won't know how much damage nail varnish removal will do since it's not exactly industrial strength. In fact, i'll go ask my lecturer next time around since he'll be able to give a finer judgement.

Well matt, you asked for the theory, i'm not sure how useful i was - whilst I study materials engineering, most of my interests are in metallurgy and not in polymer/composite mechanics.

Leave the glue on for the time being. I'm sure that the fibreglass should still retain its theoretical strength with a bit of solvent splashed onto it if indeed you decided to give it a go. DOn't hold me responsible.
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[Mac_Black]

Thanks guys some very helpful replies here, will award karma when my bank is replenished

[Groove]

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[meach]

Could have been worse..............
When i first read the title i thought you had superglued your HELMET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[Syx]

[MattHirst]

[aaronb74]

I feel let down by this thread, I really hoped you were gonna say you had superglued it to your head
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[neatbik]

Oi, nothing wrong with Shark lids....
I'd either leave it on there or if you want to be tarty about it then a bit of nail varnish remover should fetch it off.
you tool

[rotax81]

[Mac_Black]

[SoND]

[hellkat]

This thread had SO MUCH more potential ...

I, too, was hoping for a lid superglued to something more solid.
Even the table would have been comedic.

I have to admit that even I didn't contemplate you might have meant your fleshy helmet (must be getting old and slow ) ... but yeah ... that would have been majorly LOL-able.
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[Mac_Black]

I agree... I've used acetone on my helmet, very unsparingly and it seems fine but the side pod did'nt react very well and cracked so I glued it back on
Then nick dropped it and I can't be fucked to glue it again right now so I'm gunna borrow my dads old Arai qauntum ii for the weekend...

Essentailly though the helmet is fucked but I'm still laughing

[neatbik]

Sorry