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PostPosted: 20:09 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

In a hypothetical situation, could a woman get pregnant if the man had a wank earlier in the day and then had unprotected sex but didn't come inside her?
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes in theory.

Hypothetical eh?
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure can, happened to me!!!

ps its the wife thats pregnant not me btw!
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
In a hypothetical situation, could a woman get pregnant if the man had a wank earlier in the day and then had unprotected sex but didn't come inside her?


The wank wouldn't have anything to do with it.

Withdrawal is a highly ineffective form of birth control. The worm doesn't need to burp for a few swimmers to make a break for freedom.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeez and I thought the sex education in my school was rather dire....

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PostPosted: 21:58 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:23 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: . Reply with quote

I can not believe that people still have the same questions about birth control as they did 50 years ago,
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your wrist starts swelling up your hand is pregnant Thumbs Up
stop playing with yourself boy...................


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PostPosted: 22:40 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

The worm doesn't need to burp for a few swimmers to make a break for freedom.


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PostPosted: 23:55 - 03 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:21 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Withdrawal is a highly ineffective form of birth control. The worm doesn't need to burp for a few swimmers to make a break for freedom.


Agreed - I'm pretty surprised actually that lots people who are of age (and sometimes well over it!) to have consensual sex still don't realise this!

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PostPosted: 03:34 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

spunk dosent live for long outside the body

always suit up . durex - because you dont know where shes been
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uppa de bumay Razz Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
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Is that not where brown babies come from then?

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PostPosted: 11:05 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah well Laughing Embarassed
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


The wank wouldn't have anything to do with it.

Withdrawal is a highly ineffective form of birth control. The worm doesn't need to burp for a few swimmers to make a break for freedom.


Not true.

The sperm 'contained' in precum is actually sperm remaining in the urethra/vas, which is a very small amount. If it was recently before sex, those sperm are still viable and present (in small number).
If you haven't ejaculated in a few days (for instance) the remaining sperm would not be viable, as precum is not a good medium for them anyway. Urination also tends to kill them off (from the urethra, not the vas) due to ph.

Failure in the withdrawal (oops) method is actually cited as being because of slip ups, and in theory if performed correctly is no less reliable then condoms (which bare in mind are only 95-98% reliable) if not then more so. I can think of quite a few occasions where condoms have split (not regularly enough to be operator error) and true you do notice it feels nicer, but thats the only real clue.

So in theory, pulling out with plenty of time is just about as safe as any other male contraceptive technique (female ones are just better, live with it girls!). Having had a wank before, I'd only worry too much if we're talking an hour or so and you hadn't pissed since then.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

Err. The rythm method is about working out when "safe" periods in her cycle are.

He's talking about withdrawal.

Pre-ejaculate CAN contain sperm, just not many. One however, is enough.

Withdrawal has a 24% failure rate on average. 31% in teenagers.*

*N Ranjit, A Bankole, JE Darroch, S Singh, "Contraceptive Failure in the First Two Years of Use: Differences Across Socioeconomic Subgroups," Family Planning Perspectives, 2001, 33(1):19-27.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suppose I'll find out in a few weeks. Confused
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning after pill is not only for the morning after.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
I can think of quite a few occasions where condoms have split


i should imagine they would fall off some of the members here lol
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:


i should imagine they would fall off some of the members here lol


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PostPosted: 20:17 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, woman's contraceptive pill = Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Getting up the duff Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


Possibly. I'm still looking for the paper I saw originally.

This isn't ideal, but you get the point.

Quote:
Usually during the plateau phase, a man will notice a small amount of clear fluid at the opening of the urethra
that is released from the Cowper’s gland. This is known as “pre-cum” and serves to change the Ph balance
of the urethra so that sperm may survive. This pre-ejaculatory fluid may be released during the excitement
phase, may vary with each man and each sexual act. The pre-ejaculatory fluid may contain Sexually
Transmissible Infections (STI’s) or, sometimes, sperm that has remained in the urethra from previous
ejaculations.


Which again leads to my standpoint. The urethra is not a happy environment for sperm, and precum does not innately carry sperm. Ergo, if you have pissed since you last came, it is very highly unlikely to contain sperm.
And yes, /just/ one sperm can fertilise an egg, but the trip up the fallopian tubes is a form of selection. The reason we ejaculate with some force is to send it up there (we also produce more if its the first time we've had sex with that person, to 'flush' competitor sperm, plus the reason for the glans is to 'scrape' out other sperm. NB Both most accepted and plausible /theories/). A feeble sperm with the deleterious effects of existing in an unsuitable environment is even less likely to be able to reach the egg. Not to mention the possibility of impaired fusion.

Whilst I'm not condoning neglecting condoms, what I'm getting at is it's not quite what they lead you to believe (most kids get told pre-cum and cum are basically the same, and both will get the woman pregnant just as efficiently).
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

AHA

Rat bastard. Found it (or one like it);

Zukerman Z, Weiss D, Orvieto R (2003) - Short Communication: Does Preejaculatory Penile Secretion Originating from Cowper's Gland Contain Sperm? - Journal of Assisted Reproduction and Genetics - 20, 4, pp 157-159


Admittedly only a few people though Thinking But meh, proves /my/ point none the less. If anyone has acess to the .pdf can they attach it so I can have a better look at the data/method?
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 04 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proves it to an extent. Also serves to highlight the dangers of focusing too closely on a single aspect of a biological process.

The fact is that one in four couples who practice withdrawal as their method of contraception land up with a pregnancy within 12 months.

I'm just hypothesising but I'd bet on most of them having NOT gone for a wank immediately prior to the act of copulation.

Them tadpoles got up there somehow.
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