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steppen22
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: brake light at traffic lights? Reply with quote

Found this online:

d Footbrake – the most

likely fault here will be

leaving your foot on the

brake lever resulting in the

brake light staying on. This

would normally be a driving

fault, but if you are

inclined to do this then it

is easy to rack up four of

these faults during the

course of the test. Poor

posture on the motorcycle or

inadequate footwear

frequently are the root

causes of this problem.




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I always have my rear on whilst at a traffic light, etc. SHould I?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always do, and that's bollocks if you ask me. If someone slams into the back of me while i'm sitting at lights, I would prefer to have a brake on thanks.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly sure I read somewhere before on the DSA website or similar that you should leave your bike in gear and keep the foot pedal depressed so that if you were to accidentally drop the clutch you won't go flying into the back of the person in front of you.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been told to have my right foot on the back brake and left foot on the ground and be in 1st gear ready to move off. I managed to pass my test last week without getting marked down at all for it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

both feet down and front 2 fingered front brake for me.

i cant see holding your foot on the rear brake will stop whatever is going to hit you. you will still be on your arse Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotax81 wrote:
both feet down and front 2 fingered front brake for me.

i cant see holding your foot on the rear brake will stop whatever is going to hit you. you will still be on your arse Thumbs Up


You will go a lot further without any brakes on, and the bike could flip with the front on. Obviously these are just vague 'what if's', but just saying.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

and which brake are you supose to use on a hill without the brake light staying on ??

That is a load of tripe !

Just my 2p worth

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PostPosted: 21:25 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually use the rear, using the front if you were hit from behind your gonna get lifted up and over the bars.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be missing something, but where in the first post (apart from the thread title) does it say that it applies to traffic lights.

Are you sure it isnt saying that whilst riding you shouldn't accidentally apply or rest on the brake pedal as it may apply the brake light?

Just a thought Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ant132 wrote:
I might be missing something, but where in the first post (apart from the thread title) does it say that it applies to traffic lights.

Are you sure it isnt saying that whilst riding you shouldn't accidentally apply or rest on the brake pedal as it may apply the brake light?

Just a thought Thumbs Up


Good observation!

Anyone incapable of riding without accidently applying the rear brake should not just be failed and never given a licence, but shot!
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex-RS wrote:
Ant132 wrote:
I might be missing something, but where in the first post (apart from the thread title) does it say that it applies to traffic lights.

Are you sure it isnt saying that whilst riding you shouldn't accidentally apply or rest on the brake pedal as it may apply the brake light?

Just a thought Thumbs Up


Good observation!

Anyone incapable of riding without accidently applying the rear brake should not just be failed and never given a licence, but shot!


LOLz never did notice that actually and now it makes much more sense ! my toes usually rest under the rear brake lever or i moveme feet back so my toes are on the foot pegs, i usually cover the front most of the time, so i think the delay in moving my foot to the top of the rear is negliable.

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PostPosted: 22:39 - 05 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told specifically by my bike trainer that you should assume a "safe stance" which is left foot on the floor and right foot on the rear brake whenever you've stopped. I did this religiously during the test and never had any problem. And still do it today. Just makes it easier to see and if you do get rear ended, you wont fly as far.
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex-RS wrote:
rotax81 wrote:
both feet down and front 2 fingered front brake for me.

i cant see holding your foot on the rear brake will stop whatever is going to hit you. you will still be on your arse Thumbs Up


You will go a lot further without any brakes on, and the bike could flip with the front on. Obviously these are just vague 'what if's', but just saying.
You may go an extra couple of metres, but nothing more. I don't see how it would flip the front up? With gravity surely you'd slide/get shoved forward and toward the floor?

I rarely use my rear brake when stopped, I prefer to have the front covered and the gear lever so I can change up quicker when I set off, spending less time ragging it in 1st.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep my foot on the rear brake too. Was taught that.

Even more now as the GSX doesn't have a brake light switch on the front brake.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What has been posted up is definitely referring to leaving your foot on the brake while riding.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
What has been posted up is definitely referring to leaving your foot on the brake while riding.


Yes, but he question was "I always have my rear on whilst at a traffic light, etc. SHould I?"

I was taught left foot down, right on brake for when you are stopped. One of the reasons quoted was that you'd be leaning to the left doing this; if you get rear ended, that's the direction you'd fall over, rather than to the right and possibly in front of oncoming traffic.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:

I was taught left foot down, right on brake for when you are stopped. One of the reasons quoted was that you'd be leaning to the left doing this; if you get rear ended, that's the direction you'd fall over, rather than to the right and possibly in front of oncoming traffic.


interesting addition ! hmmm.

Anyway, when hit from behind:
Rear brake on = bike squats (submarines!) down and you end up falling back and onto nice 'soft' car bonnet (hopefully boshing the driver in the head with your helmet as you slide back)
Front brake on = bike does the opposite and you end up flying over the bars - with both bike and car in immediate pursuit - and if you are unlucky you greet the car in front also / traffic ?
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always have my front on at lights and both feet down on floor. As Shaggy says you stand a better chance of saving it if hit from behind. As your not starting off balance.

Also if you use common sense (otherwise known as road craft) you should be aware of anything behind you and ready to take avoiding action should it look like it's not going to stop.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Depending on the situation you might want to have the brakes on. Trouble on a bike is that you cannot really have the brakes on without having the brake light on, and if you are just sat in traffic all you are doing is dazzling the poor sucker stuck behind you. One reason in a car you should be using the handbrake and leaving the normal brake well alone when sat in non moving traffic.

To be honest I would suspect that with a bike you are almost always going to be knocked off with any serious impact that would send you flying over a junction, hance no gain most of the time from sitting on the brakes. But a gentle nudge could certainly have more serious effects with no brakes on.

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PostPosted: 12:20 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
stuff


Never thought of it that way.

I do sometimes sit at lights with both feet down and front brake on. Bad habit I know.

Kickstart wrote:
and if you are just sat in traffic all you are doing is dazzling the poor sucker stuck behind you.


If you are right at the back of a queue of traffic I would have thought having the brake lights showing would be desirable.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
If you are right at the back of a queue of traffic I would have thought having the brake lights showing would be desirable.


I agree then (and would also consider pulling and releasing the brake to draw attention if someone appeared to be approaching more rapidly than usual), but I mean tin traffic, not stuck at the back of it.

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PostPosted: 18:10 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Alex-RS wrote:
You will go a lot further without any brakes on, and the bike could flip with the front on. Obviously these are just vague 'what if's', but just saying.
I don't see how it would flip the front up? With gravity surely you'd slide/get shoved forward and toward the floor?


I didn't say it would flip the front up. I meant the bike could flip, with the front brake applied, as in the back could go up.
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:

If you are right at the back of a queue of traffic I would have thought having the brake lights showing would be desirable.


What are you doing at the back of a queue of traffic on a bike!? Wink

Rear brake stays on whenever I am stationary, especially any kind of incline - how exactly are you supposed to prevent yourself rolling forwards or backwards without using a brake? Plus the rear brake is far more likely to stay on should you get cramp, sneeze, or nudged from behind.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 06 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to sit at traffic lights with both feet down and no brakes on, if I don't the brake light saps all the power and then my indicators don't work Rolling Eyes Doesn't help that the headlight bulb is 10W too much and you can't get 25W/25W anymore.
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