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Mr Nice Guy
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Quantum of Solace Reply with quote

Anyone seen it?

First off, I usually think James Bond movies suck for the most part, childish nonsense (especially the Brosnan stuff - invisible car? f off)

However, I watched Casino Royale last night and went and seen QoS today, and have to say I'm now a fan again!
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i was sad enough to go to the cinema on my own to watch QoS as no other fucker wanted to, I thought it was good a lot faster paced than Casino Royale in a shorter time which made for hard brain time trying to keep up!!

I was never that big a fan of the older Bond's but these last two are great!!!

Don't believe the Quantum of Solace haters people !! Its great!!
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that not the Bond fanatics that's hating on it?

I think the same reason I like it, is the reason they dislike it.

It's really just an action movie where the main character happens to be named James Bond... as opposed to a "James Bond movie" ..if that makes sense Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:

It's really just an action movie where the main character happens to be named James Bond...


EXACTLY...none of the bollocks cheesy lines and cliches of old Bonds...they are a completely different beast to the earlier films and much much much better for it!!

Long live the nasty bond(as he always was in the books!!)
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to it, if Casino Royale was anything to go by.

However, why does everyone hate Brosnan as bond so much, the last two were a bit crap, especially the invisible car/ice palace malarky.

But Goldeneye was a cracking film, people said similar things at the time, as they did about Casino Royale, people seem to have forgotten. Tomorrow never dies wasn't a bad effort either, no real cause for complaint although its been a while since I've seen it.

Is it fair to criticise a formally good bond for his latter day sins?
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, I'm not a Bond fan, haven't been since I was a kid, but as I had agreed to go see the new one with the guys at work and ITV2 had been showing a few of them last week (do they ever stop actually?) - I tuned into Goldeneye, I lasted 1hr 20m before the bullshit got too much Embarassed Laughing

I fell asleep the next night during Tomorrow Never Dies. *shrugs*

Nothing against Brosnan, liked him in other things.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Like I said, I'm not a Bond fan, haven't been since I was a kid, but as I had agreed to go see the new one with the guys at work and ITV2 had been showing a few of them last week (do they ever stop actually?) - I tuned into Goldeneye, I lasted 1hr 20m before the bullshit got too much Embarassed Laughing

I fell asleep the next night during Tomorrow Never Dies. *shrugs*

Nothing against Brosnan, liked him in other things.


I managed about 10 minutes of Goldeneye.........cheeeeeeeeese although at the time it didnt seem as bad ?!?!?

All the gadgets and stuff were getting a bit much though, Bond is better back to basics.

Although my girlfriend was paying far too much attention to Daniel Craigs blue speedos in Casino Royale!!
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early Brosnan Bond used to be my favourite - I could never really gel with the earlier ones, especially Moore and Connery.

These latest films are far superior though, Daniel Craig is excellent, and they just improve on the old films in every way. To my mind, QoS wasn't quite as good as CR, but that's just nit-picking.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw it today, was good.

Must get the DVD for frame by frame on the Bolivian maid's pussy.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 07 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: Quantum of Solace Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Anyone seen it?

First off, I usually think James Bond movies suck for the most part, childish nonsense (especially the Brosnan stuff - invisible car? f off)

However, I watched Casino Royale last night and went and seen QoS today, and have to say I'm now a fan again!
I'm 20 and have always openly admitted to loving the Bond film's,she says im just a big kid. Laughing Razz

I think the far out and strange gadgets make the films, nothing else would sell with the same plot lines but they are a tad 'guessable'..... She won't come she the new one with me though...... Guess ill be off on my own.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:

Is it fair to criticise a formally good bond for his latter day sins?


Well Goldeneye is shit. So are all of the Brosnan bonds. He's more wooden than Roger Moore, and gets less roughed up than connery or any of the others. Die another day was total toss.

Here's an example of Goldeneye's shitness. When the MIGs get knocked out by the mag pulse weapon, you can see the lightbulbs in their tailpipes.

Fail.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older Bonds where ok but they are crap now and so played out with me. Stupid cheesy lines, James acting like a slut, bad guy dies, someone tries to take over the world, some crappy song that you dont hear the end of. YAWN.

Shirley Bassey is exempt from that last sentance I quite like her.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can't say I was impressed with Casino Royal. Seemed the they were so busy thinking of ways to do real stunts that they forgot to give it much of a story.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:31 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Can't say I was impressed with Casino Royal. Seemed the they were so busy thinking of ways to do real stunts that they forgot to give it much of a story.


In that case you may not be overly keen on Q of S, as I think you may feel the same way.

I went Friday before last to the first showing (bought tickets weeks before Embarassed ) and I loved it. I think that Daniel Craig is so much more believable as how a real James Bond might be and the action scenes are very impressive. Just make sure you're up to speed with Casino Royale tho, as it carries on directly from the last scene Wink
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:
In that case you may not be overly keen on Q of S, as I think you may feel the same way.


Suspect you are right. Will probably see it, or might just wait until it is on DVD.

Tonka wrote:
I went Friday before last to the first showing (bought tickets weeks before Embarassed ) and I loved it. I think that Daniel Craig is so much more believable as how a real James Bond might be and the action scenes are very impressive. Just make sure you're up to speed with Casino Royale tho, as it carries on directly from the last scene Wink


I think he has potential to be very good, and I do quite like the idea of making the stunts more real. Just seemed to me that they spent all their effort in trying to make real stunts and forgot that they are part of the film, not the actual film.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:49 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly Keith. I saw QoS last week and I thought that had the film not had 007 in the title it would have been a "straight to DVD" film. Had such a poor plot, a real letdown after the brilliant Casino Royale.

The first scene with the Aston Martins were absolute sex though, sounded so amazing, the title song was good also, after that it was poor poor poor.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Can't say I was impressed with Casino Royal. Seemed the they were so busy thinking of ways to do real stunts that they forgot to give it much of a story.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:03 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Kickstart wrote:
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Can't say I was impressed with Casino Royal. Seemed the they were so busy thinking of ways to do real stunts that they forgot to give it much of a story.

All the best

Keith



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PostPosted: 17:40 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found the new james bond quite good. my girlfriend who does not normally like james bond found quantum of solace quite action filled which kept her interest, while the older ones concentrated on too much of a plot.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
i found the new james bond quite good. my girlfriend who does not normally like james bond found quantum of solace quite action filled which kept her interest, while the older ones concentrated on too much of a plot.


Heaven forbid you'd have to pay attention. And it's not as though ANY of the James Bond movies had a hard plot to follow.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Can't say I was impressed with Casino Royal. Seemed the they were so busy thinking of ways to do real stunts that they forgot to give it much of a story.

All the best

Keith


Hahaha! You're getting funnier by the day Keith! Laughing Wink

The reason why CS has no plot to speak of, is because it is based closely upon the original Ian Fleming book of the same name.

Now, I'm going to say something rather shocking here, and all of the Fleming afficionados will probably attack me but:

He isn't all that good a writer. Sure, He's good at descriptive writing, and he's OK at action but plot was never all that much of a strong point. Nor characterisation.

The books are successful in the same way that the films are. They are brain-out entertainment. If you want characterisation or plot then watch something else. If you want agonisation over whether or not you're doing the right thing then watch Munich or the Boring identity.

If you want action, watch CS (and hopefully QoS).

However... despite me liking brain out entertainment My brain obviously still works in the background, else I would have actually enjoyed Die another day. What a pile of steaming poo.

Has no one noticed that all James Bond films have exactly the same plot and format?

Pre credits James finishes off previous mission by doing something spectacular.

Credits.

Post credits - tenuous link between pre credit sequence established and mission outlined. Bond flies somewhere exotic

Bad guy plots

Bond meets contact who tells Bond about bad guy (we aren't always sure he's a bad guy at this point, but deep down... we know.)

Bond has a few fights and car chases getting closer to bad guy

Contact/chick gets killed

Bond finds way to get to bad guy's lair

Bond confronts bad guy but is captured or fails in some way

Bad guy plots

Bond succeeds in getting one over on bad guy - climactic fight/battle/explosions

Bond saves day, ends up with girl and says a witty one liner.

The end.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
I saw it today, was good.

Must get the DVD for frame by frame on the Bolivian maid's pussy.


Its funny you should mention that scene as we originally had it like it is now, then we panned the shot down to lose the err.. pussy, then at the last minute we decided to rack it back in.

Glad we pleased at least one person!!! Wink

...and btw.. you only see her knickers! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you have those few seconds of film in high quality format?

Spread the love.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:
Just make sure you're up to speed with Casino Royale tho, as it carries on directly from the last scene Wink


Thanks for that spoiler warning. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 08 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
Tonka wrote:
Just make sure you're up to speed with Casino Royale tho, as it carries on directly from the last scene Wink


Thanks for that spoiler warning. Thumbs Up



Hardly a spoiler, its been pretty well advertised as a sequel!
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