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David-lee
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: how secure is my bike?security issue Reply with quote

I use an almax chain and cisa lock.I also use an alarm disklock and a none alarm disklock sold secure

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lee8040
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds secure but if they want it that bad then they'll get it. i use 2 disc locks at work, always been fine touch wood
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Wil
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where you leave it IE what area you live in. I can leave my bike outside my house unlocked and it wont go anywhere. I just sling a chain around the back wheel, put a disklock on and arm the alarm overnight.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: how secure is my bike?security issue Reply with quote

David-lee wrote:
I use an almax chain and cisa lock.I also use an alarm disklock and a none alarm disklock sold secure

cheers


Do you keep it in a garage?
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Matthie
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to go the distance you can install a ground anchor and chain it too that, however, even then the chain can be cut. Best bet is to whack whatever security you can afford on it and make sure you are at least TPF&T with your insurance.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put it this way, in some areas, if people want ur bike they'll take it, i've known a few people with alarms, locks etc, and the bikes have gone, just depends on people wanting it that bad and again the 'area' you live in

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PostPosted: 13:02 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Locks and stuff will put off the opportunist joy rider/ petty theif.

Nothing will put off the pro stealing to order guys though. Hence why alarms are essentially a waste of money.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Re: how secure is my bike?security issue Reply with quote

David-lee wrote:
I use an almax chain and cisa lock.I also use an alarm disklock and a none alarm disklock sold secure...

As said, depends where you park it.
If possible go for a ground anchor.
If not then go for something like Stinkwheel's alternative - click here for info (and scroll down).
Failing both those go for the oil drum/large planter/large plant pot filled with quick drying ready mixed cement with hook for the chain and suitable hard core rubble (stops hook being pulled out) embedded in it.

Remember to keep all chains off the ground.

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PostPosted: 13:17 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Locks and stuff will put off the opportunist joy rider/ petty theif.

Nothing will put off the pro stealing to order guys though. Hence why alarms are essentially a waste of money.


Spot on basically
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Hence why alarms are essentially a waste of money.


Not sure I'd quite go that far, if the alarm alerts you to the fact that someone's messing, it's giving you an opportunity to do something about it. No alarm, you'd never be any the wiser until you go outside the next day and find the empty space where your bike used to be.

An alarm you can't hear is a waste of money, no-one else will give a shit.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
Hence why alarms are essentially a waste of money.


Not sure I'd quite go that far, if the alarm alerts you to the fact that someone's messing, it's giving you an opportunity to do something about it. No alarm, you'd never be any the wiser until you go outside the next day and find the empty space where your bike used to be.

An alarm you can't hear is a waste of money, no-one else will give a shit.


True, I personally think a chain works better than an alarm has it's physical security and the opportunist isn't going to walk around with stuff to get past such things.

Chains also don't flatten your battery or go off at petrol stations.
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want both, innit.

I wouldn't trust an alarm as far as I could throw is as my *only* security, but I like the fact that while they're pissing about trying to get through the chain it's gonna start screaming and let me know someone's messing.

The only time this actually happened I was out the front door in a matter of seconds. Dunno what I would have actually done if they hadn't legged it, but the alarm certainly paid it's way that night.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
You want both, innit.

I wouldn't trust an alarm as far as I could throw is as my *only* security, but I like the fact that while they're pissing about trying to get through the chain it's gonna start screaming and let me know someone's messing.

The only time this actually happened I was out the front door in a matter of seconds. Dunno what I would have actually done if they hadn't legged it, but the alarm certainly paid it's way that night.


I've just been a victim on Saturday night
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=161550

my problem with a chain is that you only have an option to lock it up to a lamp post and its that not next to your house etc... it may stop or slow them down.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another problem is if they try to steal it, but can't take it because it's got an Almax and a massive ground anchor then they will probably just smash it up. A cover would be some good security along with hiding it somewhere its hard to see or better still put it in a garage. As said a pro can have it anyway as an Almax will be the weakest link, since they can just remove the wheel or cut the swingarm or whatever you put the chain around and then chuck it in a van and sell it for parts.
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Seb
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 24 Nov 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my situation, my cover is probably the best single bit of security on my bike, locks and anchors deter the more serious thief, but my cover seems to do a good job of deterring drunks and kids who likely wouldn't even realise the bike was anchored till they got slamdunked onto the concrete by 240 kilos of angry italian Smile

Given the amount of damage thats been done to various cars on my road alone over the last few years, I'd say it's done that job rather well even if it is a dismal failure at simply keeping the bike dry overnight Sad
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