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PostPosted: 12:33 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: 300 mile trip on wednesday....advice? Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm picking up a honda magna v30 from newbury on wednesday.
The earliest train ticket i can get from here (newcastle upon tyne) is leaving at just after 10am and does'nt get me to newbury (berkshire) station until a little after 4pm Shocked .

Now considering the weather/traffic e.t.c. is it do-able to ride back from there at that time at night (would take 5 hours) or am i better off finding a place to stay down there? Maybe travel 100 miles then find a place to kip?

Anyone done much long distance motorway riding in this weather at night?
At first i thought it would be no problem,so i jumped in and bought the bike.Now it's not looking so easy Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 12:40 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I'd find somewhere to kip then ride up the next day. Just cos it'll be an exercise in freezing misery at night, at least it'll be slightly less freezing misery in the daytime.

Is there no silly-late train or bus combination that'd get you to Newbury in the early morning? I know sod-all about trains but I'd imagine there must be trains from the north that arrive in London in the early morning for long-distance commuters, then get a different train out to Newbury and ride home in the daytime.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is slightly earlier trains,but they want £112 quid compared to the later train which is only £50 quid! Hell of a difference in price Confused

Any ideas on where to stay (somewhere cheap with secure parking)

How bad is southern traffic at that ime of night?Am i likely to be stuck somewhere,and any advice on the best-quickest route from newbury to the A1(m)....
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weather forecast (as much as you can rely on one of those) is worse for Thursday than it is Wednesday. I'd be tempted to get a late train down on the Tuesday night if you can, stay in a Travelodge or similar and start the day with a bloody good fryup.

Then again, if you add the price of the train, accomodation and fuel together, how does that compare with hiring a van (which you can sleep in), or getting a courier company to collect it for you?
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trains already booked for wed morning now.

I put aside £50 for fuel and the £50 for the train.
I actually have a bike trailer that i could use,but i heard a lot of bad things about traveling in london area(traffic),so decided to ride back for quickness.
It was a good idea at the time Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any advice on the best-quickest route from newbury to the A1(m)....


I'd go...

Newbury A34 north past Oxford to M40
North on M40 1 junction, take A43 past Silverstone to Northampton
Just before Northampton, you get to J15a of M1, take it south 1 junction to J15
At J15, take A45 to Wellingborough, stay on it until you get to the A14 (Signposted Peterborough)
A14 east takes you to A1, or A605 north takes you to A1 - the latter isn't a dual carriageway.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
...train down on the Tuesday night if you can, stay in a Travelodge or similar and start the day with a bloody good fryup....
...how does that compare with hiring a van (which you can sleep in), or getting a courier company to collect it for you?

I agree with staying in a Travelodge/Premier Inn.
However, where's the sense of adventure in driving a van or getting someone to do the job for you?

A long ride (providing the weather's dry(ish)) is a good way to get to know your new bike. You'll be more than familiar with the tank range, seat comfort and every bang, knock and squeak by the time you get home. Just remember to wrap up warm and take stops quite often.

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PostPosted: 12:55 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

...or he could absolutely hate the bike from his first riding experience on it Smile
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

justmetoo125 wrote:

How bad is southern traffic at that ime of night?Am i likely to be stuck somewhere,and any advice on the best-quickest route from newbury to the A1(m)....


Can be fine, can be bollocks. It's rush hour, anything can happen.

From Newbury to Newcastle I'd be going up the A34, M40, M1, M18 and then onto the A1. Dunno why you'd be going anywhere near London.

If you do a route on the AA site it'll mark travelodges, you could see if there are any on the way doing cheap-ish deals - do a couple of hours then get a night's kip and resume the next day when temps are above freezing.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was gonna go A34 to A43 all the way to te A1.It looks a lot easier on the map? Would that be a bad idea?
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd stay down there the night before, pick the bike up 1st thing in the a.m then ride home. 300 miles in the dark on the motorway will be a nightmare, freezin and borin.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike:

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For being a cruiser type bike,it doesn't look too comfy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheapest i can get a travel lodge for one night is £50 quid.
It's about half that price here!

Oh well,theres sleeping idea out the window.Gonna have to brave it all the way home Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I disagree with cruisers Smile... You're welcome to use my sofa on Tuesday night.

I'm about 10 miles away from Newbury - there's a regular ish bus service that goes there.

I've been up to newcastle a few times with work (in a car) - generally seems best to do the M1/M18 etc thing.

Remember you're going to need plenty of warm layers etc... I'm shivering at the moment and I'm sitting in the office at work with a reasonable number of PCs chucking out heat at least!
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

See if there are any E-Tap motels near, they're the same as Travelodge, but only £30 something a night.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you want you could collect the bike in Newbury and ride it to Bracknell ('bout 30 miles back along the M4), stick the bike in the garage and kip on my sofa.
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Much as I disagree with cruisers Smile... You're welcome to use my sofa on Tuesday night.


That's an extremely generous offer G Thumbs Up but im not down till wednesday Sad .

Bendy wrote:
Well, if you want you could collect the bike in Newbury and ride it to Bracknell ('bout 30 miles back along the M4), stick the bike in the garage and kip on my sofa.


Again,extremely nice offer Thumbs Up

I'm gonna try to do at least 100 miles on wednesday,then find a hotel/b&b if needed.Or if i'm ok with the cold just keep on going.
I'm also unbelievably bad with directions,so trying to find my way to someones house would be near impossible Laughing .

Really though,thanks for the offers Thumbs Up

BTW G,it's not actually my cruiser,It's my dad inlaws Very Happy i'm not much of a cruiser person either Laughing (i knew he wanted it,so i forced him to buy it using his ebay account Laughing )
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:58 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:59 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
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Use paper and a pen. Laughing


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PostPosted: 14:02 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:23 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

firefox wrote:
Bendy wrote:
Use paper and a pen. Laughing


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PostPosted: 15:43 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When i was selling my bike i had to ride 40miles which would be 40 mins journey, it took me 4 hours to get there as most of the roads to there were closed for maintaince and the whole trip was 150miles one way...

So don't ride it in 1 day, just dont...
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it was in the summer, but I several times did over 300 miles in a day this year. (The first time leaving at 9pm, arriving a little after 2am.)
There’s a few options for the journey he’s doing and I can’t see the major North/South arterial in Enngland being closed for maintenance Smile.

Being confident filtering may well be very useful if you’re actually leaving at 4; you’ll get the full brunt of rush hour.

Incidentally, you’d also be welcome to stay Wednesday, but seems you’re set on giving it a go (and Bendy’s would probably be a better bet anyway).

If you want to do it on the cheap, you could always take along a tent, sleeping bag and mat. Obviously would have to take along some appropriate stuff to attach it to the bike too.
Can usually find an empty grassy field or similar to camp in most places in the UK; just come off the motorway junction and have a nose around until you find some where suitably secluded; shouldn’t be a big problem if you’re only staying overnight and is my favourite price; free Smile.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 01 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of compromise would be set off and see how it goes.
It's a quiet time of year so you could probably stop at a travelodge or something after a couple of hours without booking.

In practice once you get on the motorway, if it's not actually raining or snowing it will be tempting to just keep going.
It will be pretty quiet on a weekday after 6pm.
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