UK to Mongolia and back in 6months - Summer 09 Riders wanted

[Nath]

Maybe a bit of a long shot on this forum, but worth an ask.

Got a trip planned for next year. 6 Months riding out across Europe, the Ukraine, Russia, heading down into Mongolia, then into Khazakstan (via russia) then heading south through to Iran to get back to Europe (subject to the border being open).

Currently got one mate interested, but would like a group of 4 as an optimum number. Obviously 6months away from home requires a fair bit of money, and giving up a fair bit of your life (job? partner? home?).

Nature of the trip is very much inspired by Mondo Enduro and Terra Circa. Gonna be done on a budget, and done as indepentantly as possible wild camping most of the way except in cities. 6 months is obviously a long period of time, but the idea is to create a laid back scedule whereby good roads, scenery, sights, cities and company can be enjoyed properly wherever encountered. Mile munching ain't no fun so why bother? There are hardly any sealed roads in Mongolia so off-roading and riding trails will be a feature of the trip.

Anyone interested drop us an email at nathancoy@ntlworld.com
And remember, this is next summer so there's just over 6months to prepare.
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[tatters]

Sent you a email
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[Itchy]

Are you that guy who has been advertising on gumtree? , the text is slightly different and he plans on going to China too (which is a no no due to laws CC restrictions etc) ...

Maybe you can team up with him...

but mid 2009? ie June/july? , I might be interested but I won't head back with you as I may not come back.
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[Nath]

No I am not that guy. Like you say China is off limits. Kind of like doing a circular route round the Mediteranean - Sounds great but then you feel like a fool when you find out that it's impossible and has been for ages.

The "plan" at the moment is April - November.
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[t121anf]

why can't you go round the med? just out of interest

[Itchy]

[kingnathski88]

I have a question.

As an estimate, how much do you think it's likely to cost for the 6 months. I know it's going to most likely depend on lot of variables, but just as a rough idea?

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[Itchy]

I worked it out to be about 8K for fuel , free acommodation via camping + 1800 for food.

+ £500 spare money for bribes in corrupt countries.

+£200 for a spare set of tyres and

+£200 for some spare bits for bike servicing

+£400 for visas to enter various countries
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[Nath]

I did a 3month trip on-tarmac in Europe 2 years ago. 18,500miles. Cost roughly £3,500.

On that trip I only free-camped a handful of times, otherwise stopping at camping sites and occasionally youth hostels (with a couple of hotels whilst dodging foul-weather in the balkans). Self catering consisted of buying bread and stuff to put in it, so ended up spending a fair amount of food, especially in the second half of the trip where I ate at restaurants almost every night.

In other words I'm aiming to spend substanscially less than £7000 if I can.



Btw tatters I got your email way back when but decided to put off replying till I started making firmer plans. Think there's someone else off here who I need to email/reply to.


I now own a DR350, and having been doing some trail riding on it which I really enjoyed. Focus for my trip will definately be riding off the tarmac carrying as little luggage as possible.
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[tatters]

Good to hear your going ahead and making progress, l,ve sorted my bike out for my trip (been bloody expensive getting panniers for it ) on track with my £10k target for around july next year, its a shame l did,nt hear about your plans earlyer this year before l sold my XR650R and brought the R100GSPD good luck with your trip might see you around in Mongolian steps


Current plan it to try and get out to japan through russia then back through the stans/iran but all depends on getting Visas and a cheap german carnet (bloody RAC want £750)
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[Itchy]

Interesting..

Problem is I can't get the time off work and its a bad time to leave in the middle of a recession , unless I get laid off..... though I am going to go look at a DR350 this weekend.

Also the other cost of not having an income ie 10K + 5K travel cost = 15k!
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[Phoenix]

[bikedemon99]

I have to beg the wife for £7 to put in my tank never mind £7,000
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[onfire]

Any news on the trip at all, really interested to see what happen.
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[Itchy]

[tatters]

[Itchy]

[Phoenix]

I don't see why Israel would be off limits to British.

[Itchy]

[tatters]

All country's surrounding Israel do not recognize is as a country and most are still technically at war with Israel, when you enter Israeli border control you are give a small piece of paper to be stamped instead of your passport so that there is no evidence of visiting, so leaving directly by land is very risky as it clear that you have been in Israel and could be refused entry.
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[Itchy]

[tatters]

cant see that statement on there website or in the application pdf


https://www.adac.de/ReiseService/tourset_reisefuehrer/tipps/Carnet_de_Passage/Carnet_e.asp?ComponentID=79913&SourcePageID=79838



Even if they only allow german citizens it would,nt work with my bike as l dont have the old german reg document
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