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altitudejunki...
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Advice for riding in slush and snow... Reply with quote

...just don't.

Right-hand junction at 5 mph on the way to work (I'm a teacher)... signal, quick shoulder check, I turn right...

...and the bike doesn't. Down we both go. Bollocks. Right in front of a crowd of students.

I'm fine, hit the kill switch, pick it up (not easy on the ice, have to do it backwards), walk round the stick it in neutral (again, not easy) and push it for 10mins or so to get to work.

Exhausted, I check the damage. Me: Severely dented ego, and moderately wet arse. Bike: Just seems like a bent rear brake lever and a scuffed rotor cover. Any ideas on where I can get new ones of these from? Crash bobbins now on Christmas list.

So, the best tip I can think of for riding in slush and melting snow? Take the bus.
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m0l0t0v
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bent brake lever? Bend it back. Scuffed cover? Leave it as is. IF it's not leaking there's no point replacing it.

Brake lever you can most probably bend it back very easily.

Bus? Screw that. Bike all the time. Just be far far more wary of the road surface.

Only ever ridden on the ice/slush one winter and that was on my 125. Didn't drop it at all Razz Did slide though Laughing

Haven't had the pleasure yet on the current bikes.
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PostPosted: 05:39 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done it before. Just rode the bike slower than a muvver.
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PostPosted: 07:32 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to get some heat into your tyres, don't be a pussy and wind that throttle open properly. Light the back tyre up and send it sideways every chance you get, it gives you +10 grip points.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't... hmm. I could have told you that yesterday - or even years ago!

I'm currently in Oslo in Norway with a bunch of rock hard Norweigans. Despite them being rock hard no one is riding motorcycles at the moment. Basically because it is stupid.

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PostPosted: 10:58 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rock hard?.. I think you'll find the ones you actually talked to are equivalent to a fluffy teddy bear - the sort that has a hot-water bottle in it!

These people may be considered 'a bit hard'!..
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Riding on ice is generally best avoided.
Snow and slush is fine, but should be taken very easy and 'loosely'... use only gentle front brake and no harsh steering inputs. If anything does happen, don't react to it harshly.
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Rock hard?.. I think you'll find the ones you actually talked to are equivalent to a fluffy teddy bear - the sort that has a hot-water bottle in it!


Well, they've all done national service - in tropical Norway, so are harder than 90% of the forum! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your gonna bend your brake lever back make sure you heat it first with a blowtorch or youll probably end up snapping it in my experience Thumbs Up

When it getsd snowy and slushy I just gotta take my time, be gentle with eveything and keep the bike as upright as possible (i.e as little lean as i can get away with).

If its icy - forget it. ive hit a patch of black ice once at about 5 - 10 mph (realised it was shit so was going uber slow) and there was nothing i could do to stop ending up on my arse.

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PostPosted: 17:06 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told this on my CBT: "How do you ride in snow? You don't, you leave it locked up and call a cab"

Yeah. Bollocks to that.

The bike evolved a touch of rear wheel steering this morning pulling out of my road, other that that it's been fine. SoND, are you serious about giving it a bit of sideways burnout? Does it actually help, or just annoy the neighbours while simultaneously being great fun?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 03 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

everything has to be really smooth. leave that front brake alone, just use engine braking and the rear brake (unless its slushy then the front brake very gently).
above all always remember your braking distance is going to be huge .
even a 50 will spin upon the ice (even my old FS1E used to lock up under engine braking Shocked )
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 04 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

timbstoke wrote:
SoND, are you serious about giving it a bit of sideways burnout? Does it actually help, or just annoy the neighbours while simultaneously being great fun?


Not really, if you do it at a standstill it will just cool down straight away. High speed drifting ftw. Avoid taking me seriously for your own safety, you might kill yourself.

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You need to be very aware of everything you're doing. Give yourself a massive amount of space between you and the car in front, if you panic and grab the front brake you'll fall.

If there is enough snow on the ground your tread will fill and you won't have any grip at all. Keeping yourself stable with your feet skiing at 10-15mph might keep you upright.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 04 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode to work in it on Tuesday, it was mental, feet down on snow then slipping, absolute stupid. Bearing in mind the bike is 2 months old and I live on a fecking hill.

Today & yesterday i've come in the car, first time this year since February. Not to bad to be honest, realised how much I miss the radio on the bike.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 04 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come in to work on the bike again and jeez I've never been so scared of dropping the bike!! The adrenaline was seriously going as I'm knackered now - even managed to get up a big hill next to where I live that had 3 cars stuck on it! Thankfully the SLR has chunky tyres but I was still fish-tailing all over the place on the way up, I just knew if I stopped that was it. Shocked

So advice from me is definitely keep it as smooth as possible, I also suddenly realised whilst taking a corner of snow that I wanted to back brake whilst having both feet sliding next to me keeping me upright - uh oh! Manged to very gently use the front brake to slow a little before balancing and using the rear brake. Slush isn't so bad but look out for those bits of solid compacted snow, very slippy!

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PostPosted: 13:45 - 04 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thankfully the SLR has chunky tyres


Skinny tyres are better in most snow conditions because the bike's weight has more chance of cutting through the snow.
If it's sheet ice it won't make much difference.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dropped my bike this week, riding to school in the snow/slush/ice.. got into the carpark at school,going under 5mph and turned slightly, then the bike slipped on the slush/ice and we were both hitting the ground..
No damage tho Smile <and i don't think anybody i knew saw Smile>
Still riding in this weather, just being more cautious - and keeping my feet out more often lol..
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I admit i pussy'd out of riding two days this week, stuff riding on ice, anything but. I'm fine for most weather i've realised there is a lot more grip available than you think, the worst thing i've found is to tense up and think shiiiiiiiit when your going through a corner.
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