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PostPosted: 19:29 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: How to stop brake disc from rusting? Reply with quote

A friend of mine has a bike which he has to store outside and which he currently can't ride. It's a Honda Bros so the front brake disc is mega bucks and he's worried about it rusting to the point where it's unusable and needs to be replaced. Obviously he can clean the rust off from time to time but is there an easy way to stop it rusting whilst it's stood? Has anyone ever tried coating their discs in something (non-oil based presumably) to protect them?
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if hes that worries about it, you could remove it and store it indoors Confused
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long is he not going ot be able to use it.

Would take a long time for a disk to rust to the point of being no use.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be stored until he gets his licence so not sure exactly. As for removing the disc, I did suggest that but he has no tools and isn't much of a mechanic. I can't help him out as I'm 400 miles away now Rolling Eyes

How long does it take for the disc to start becoming pitted? I've never left a bike stood that long.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's obviously not going to be riding it for a good length of time by the sound of it. How about giving it a good thick coat of grease (yea, I know it's a brake disk). He can then give it a damn good clean when he's ready for riding. Nice and shiny and rust free.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'd say the best bet was to just buy a bike cover, this will pretty much stop the disc from rusting at all (no rain will get to it).

Second option... buy/borrow/beg/steal a socket set and take the front caliper/s off and remove the pads, coat the disc in something like ACF50, FS365 or regular applications of WD40 if he can't afford the others.
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd give it a wipe with WD40 once in a while. Just avoid spraying onto the brake pads and give them a good clean with brake cleaner before you need to use them. (DON'T FORGET)
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 07 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
I'd give it a wipe with WD40 once in a while. Just avoid spraying onto the brake pads and give them a good clean with brake cleaner before you need to use them. (DON'T FORGET)


Even before spinning the wheel or pressing the brake lever once. You really don't want any oily substances on those pads!
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take front pads out, push pistons back into caliper, spray disc with WD40.

Leave the pads in a 'safe place', (preferably somewhere he will see them before he jumps onto the bike without re-fitting)

When he comes to use the bike he MUST THOROUGHLY de-grease the front disc and THEN re-fit the pads or he will die.- Then Sickpup, being a complete vulture will buy the salvage, strip it, and make a fortune on Ebay. (Possibly TMI, but hey, it's late Wink )
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

lozzypop1 wrote:
Sickpup, being a complete vulture will buy the salvage, strip it, and make a fortune on Ebay.


Opportunists tend to make themselves good money Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

When he first uses the bike the rust will go from the disc. The main thing is to keep the pistons free from rust,
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soul_Trader wrote:

Opportunists tend to make themselves good money Thumbs Up


VULTURE.... Not opportunist Wink

Skudd wrote:
When he first uses the bike the rust will go from the disc. The main thing is to keep the pistons free from rust,


The reason I say remove the pads, is they may be sintered, in which case, they may corrode sticking TO the disc causing a high/low spot similar feeling to having a warp.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

uniuk2000 wrote:
How about giving it a good thick coat of grease

SoND wrote:
I'd give it a wipe with WD40 once in a while

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dont ever go near your discs with grease or wd40!!!

for a disc to rust to the point of being unuseable it would have to be very very thin already or itd need to be sat outside for ages to rust that much. the rust will come off as soon as the bike is ridden so dont wory about it
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave him a cover with the bike (it's my old Bros) and it is covered 24/7 but it's still rusting apparently. I was thinking along the lines of removing the pads and greasing up the disc then cleaning but I was also wondering if there was any alternative that isn't oil based and avoids having to take anything apart. That said, it is spectacularly easy to take the pads out of the calipers Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:50 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
uniuk2000 wrote:
How about giving it a good thick coat of grease

SoND wrote:
I'd give it a wipe with WD40 once in a while

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dont ever go near your discs with grease or wd40!!!


you clearly haven't read the thread. We have all suggested this kind of solution AS LONG AS IT'S THOROUGHLY CLEANED BEFORE USE.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't coat your discs with WD40.

Since it's a steel disk it won't rust much anyway. The first time you press the brake lever when you first ride it will burn all the rust off.

If you were using iron disks then it would be slightly more of a problem.

To be honest as long as when you last rode it there was no moisture on the road and it's being stored in a garage it shouldn't rust in any case.
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
uniuk2000 wrote:
How about giving it a good thick coat of grease

SoND wrote:
I'd give it a wipe with WD40 once in a while

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dont ever go near your discs with grease or wd40!!!

for a disc to rust to the point of being unuseable it would have to be very very thin already or itd need to be sat outside for ages to rust that much. the rust will come off as soon as the bike is ridden so dont wory about it


Putting WD40 or grease on the disk is fine, but I'd suggest cleaning it properly with brake cleaner before using it.

As said, too, take hte pads out before you do this. Any oil or grease on your pads is bad news (even if it's just a tiny bit). I got some on mine and very nearly ruined the pads, ended up burning all the oil out with a blowtorch Thumbs Up

However, as others have said, rust shouldn't really be a problem. A lot of discs get a thin coating or iron oxide after being sat there for a while, but the first time you use the brakes it will all scrub off.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ignore it, it'll be fine. I had cast iron PFM discs on my old blade and those rusted faster than a Suzuki. Occasionally the pads would weld themselves to the discs overnight but a quick bump backwards and forwards soon sorted that.

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PostPosted: 18:49 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
dont ever go near your discs with grease or wd40!!!


Thick coat of grease I'd disagree with but WD40 would be ok. I rode around with my brakes drowning in fork oil for a couple of months and it only nearly killed me once but that was my fault. Laughing

Using them will take the rust off the braking area but not from the centers.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual advice from bike mags and the like is simply to leave 'em.

When you use the bike, the brake pads will take the rust off of the important areas anyway...
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idk why people get so stressy about grease on discs, even a spray of chain lube takes less than a road's length of braking to wear off?

Ok ideally it shouldn't be done, but then a lot of other things shouldn't be done also.

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PostPosted: 21:42 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyroforlife wrote:
Idk why people get so stressy about grease on discs, even a spray of chain lube takes less than a road's length of braking to wear off?



If it's on the disks and you brake then it's in the pads and the pads are only fit for the bin.
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah sure it can be cleaned off, but there's no reason why it'd ever be necessary, you don't get any benefit and there's the risk that you'll end up causing problems.

by all means people can coat their brakes with grease or WD40 if they really want to, i hope they'll enjoy having to clean it all off Laughing
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