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PostPosted: 16:55 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Police Question Reply with quote

Not gonna give away too much detail. But I pulled a wheelie today on my pit bike away from the traffic lights.

A bit later on I got a call from my mate asking if I got pulled by the un-marked police car which was sat behind me at the lights.


I was like "umm, No".


So bit confused as to what can happen now. Obviously I can deny all knowledge of being in that particular place at that particular time, And just claim that somebody must have cloned my plate or whatever.


However, Another one of my mates said he got spotted ages ago, and the next day the police were at his door. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were probally laughing like the coppers I wheelied past on the Toy Run yesterday. Very Happy

Wouldn't worry about it, probally just community police officers in a unmarked car which we get around here, they don't actually have any lights.

Loving my bike atm, I could get used to power wheelies off every lights in first and second, no matter how small. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most cars if not all unmarked cars have video cameras now so denying it will be a mistake. But they would have pulled you there and then if they were behind you. Probably your mate winding you up. Wink
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure your mate's not having you on? Normally, they'd pull you immediately.

If they do turn up don't incriminate yourself and don't lie either, just say 'really, that doesn't sound like something I'd normally do, do you have a video i could see?' and take it from there.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na he said it was a black Skoda with loads of Ariel's on the roof. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Na he said it was a black Skoda with loads of Ariel's on the roof. Laughing


Did he actually see coppers in it?
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:


Did he actually see coppers in it?



I asked that, and he just said "Yea, you could tell they were coppers".



Surely if they wanted to nick me they would of done it there and then.
Mate of mine recons I'll just get a Section 59 through the post.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like they are just making more paper work ect for themselves by doing it that way. Never heard of someone getting done for something, except failure to stop, after the event.

I wouldn't loose sleep over it tbh.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do get a visit, dont deny it cause cameras are everywhere but say it was an accident as youve just changed your throttle cable and it must have been sticky and you really got a fright, you have got it sorted now and that should be the end of it, worth a go anyway cause it does happen
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Re: Police Question Reply with quote

binge wrote:
, And just claim that somebody must have cloned my plate or whatever.


Just be carefull pulling that one.....

Not unknown for people to try only to have their gear behind them and in full view......

Cloned plates might just wash, but on the same bike, in the same area and with the same gear.... Don't wash and will result in a lot harder tug... And possibly attempting to pervert the course of justice...

Bit like the silly bint who said she was driving both husbands and sons cars and took the points for them....
What a shame they got found out and she was very lucky to escape a spell inside over xmas.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

in theory you could receive a NIP through the post within 14 days of the offence, notifying you that you are being prosecuted for careless driving.

in practice i shouldnt imagine anything will happen. If they wanted to do you they would have done there and then.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Re: Police Question Reply with quote

binge wrote:
A bit later on I got a call from my mate asking if I got pulled by the un-marked police car which was sat behind me at the lights.


I was like "umm, No".


Is he winding you up? Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got one of those black skodas here in farnborough.

I keep seeing it having pulled other people over.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soul_Trader wrote:

I keep seeing it having pulled other people over.



Say again?
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Soul_Trader wrote:

I keep seeing it having pulled other people over.



Say again?


Got one of those black skodas here in farnborough.

I keep seeing it having pulled other people over.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Na he said it was a black Skoda with loads of Ariel's on the roof. Laughing


could be a cab driver mate.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
I'll just get a Section 59 through the post.


Sorry if this sounds patronizing, but I wouldn't call it just a Section 59. My mate has one, and he has coppers following him everywhere if they spot him and are just patrolling. It doesn't matter because he could outrun anything on the ground, but it really does his head in.
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PostPosted: 02:50 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

is section 59 just the warning thing. cos i got one even though she had no evidence i was doing anything wrong just her word against mine. Can the police even do that ?
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

nick606 wrote:
is section 59 just the warning thing. cos i got one even though she had no evidence i was doing anything wrong just her word against mine. Can the police even do that ?

2 Section 59's and you lose your bike iirc.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Section 59 Police Reform Act 2002 states that -

Where an officer has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used in a manner which contravenes Road Traffic Act Section 3 (Careless Driving) OR Section 34 (Driving elsewhere than on a road) AND also the manner of use of the vehicle is causing or has been causing or is likely to cause, alarm distress or annoyance to members of the public, Section 59 can be used to:-

initially give a written warning (valid for twelve months)
(commonly called a Section 59 Notice)

and on a subsequent occasion to seize the vehicle.
(it will probably end up in the crusher, or may be ransomed back to the owner)

A constable in uniform has the power to order the person driving to stop the vehicle, to seize and remove the vehicle, to enter any premises on which the officer has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be and to use reasonable force. Seizure can made only if a warning has been given, or believed to have been given, or if a warning is clearly being ignored.


(shamelessly swiped from t'internets, I'm not a solicitor, etc, etc)
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:53 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

there are no double standards with policing in this country Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
...black Skoda with loads of Ariel's on the roof. Laughing

Very Happy, sorry, but my mind played word association football with that one...

https://www.direct-vehicle-leasing.net/images/car_images/Skoda%20Fabia.jpg + https://www.hollywoodstandups.com/images/641%20Ariel.jpg

Suggest waiting 14 days (assuming same timeout as speeding), although, and only my opinion, if you were riding that badly and irresponsibly they would have had a duty of care to stop you there and then.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
nick606 wrote:
is section 59 just the warning thing. cos i got one even though she had no evidence i was doing anything wrong just her word against mine. Can the police even do that ?

2 Section 59's and you lose your bike iirc.


I dont see how the police can do that i though they needed actual evidence. I do remeber her saying that though. But i though she might have been bullshitting me.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if that was me in an unmarked car and I had time to deal with it there and then I would stop the rider. If I was en-route to somewhere and needed to be at an appointment then I would more than likely put a marker on the video and visit the home address of the keeper at a later stage.
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