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come on its a focus..... just replace the 1 tyre and carry on. you will be wasting money buying 2 tyres when its not needed. its hardly a supercar!  ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
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Agree with robby, 'cheap' tyres arent worth having. They dont grip, and they wear out quick too.
Ive had the Pirelli p6000's on my focus, after they wore out i put some Avons on and they are pretty good, especially in the wet (but its our 'family' car, so i aint saying anymore than that ) |
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| Craig- wrote: | As its FWD it doesn't matter huge amounts about the rear, you'd get away with replacing only one side.
Although most tyre fitters will say replace both on the same axle, but its not detrimental. If it was your fronts then yes, get both replaced at this time of year. |
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Intuition suggests that since the front tires wore out first and because there is still about half of the tread remaining on the rear tires, the new tires should be installed on the front axle. This will provide more wet and wintry traction; and by the time the front tires have worn out for the second time, the rear tires will be worn out, too. However in this case, intuition isn't right...and following it can be downright dangerous.
When tires are replaced in pairs in situations like these, the new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. The reason is because new tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning.
Hydroplaning occurs when the tire cannot process enough water through its tread design to maintain effective contact with the road. In moderate to heavy rain, water can pool up in road ruts, depressions and pockets adjacent to pavement expansion joints. At higher speeds, the standing water often found in these pools challenges a tire's ability to resist hydroplaning.
Exactly when hydroplaning occurs is the result of a combination of elements including water depth, vehicle weight and speed, as well as tire size, air pressure, tread design and tread depth. A lightweight vehicle with wide, worn, underinflated tires in a heavy downpour will hydroplane at lower speeds than a heavyweight vehicle equipped with new, narrow, properly inflated tires in drizzling rain.
If the front tires have significantly less tread depth than the rear tires, the front tires will begin to hydroplane and lose traction on wet roads before the rear tires. While this will cause the vehicle to understeer (the vehicle wants to continue driving straight ahead), understeer is relatively easy to control because releasing the gas pedal will slow the vehicle and help the driver maintain control.
However, if the front tires have significantly more tread depth than the rear tires, the rear tires will begin to hydroplane and lose traction on wet roads before the fronts. This will cause the vehicle to oversteer (the vehicle will want to spin). Oversteer is far more difficult to control and in addition to the initial distress felt when the rear of the car starts sliding, quickly releasing the gas pedal in an attempt to slow down may actually make it more difficult for the driver to regain control, possibly causing a complete spinout. |
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swap in pairs and swap front to rear or vice versa every few months or so to get the most out of each tyre.
Goodyear eagle f1 is a fantastic tyre for it's price! Wet roads never bothered me and in the dry it was great. ____________________ 2012 KTM EXC 250
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I would be tempted to replace both. But what state is the spare tyre in? Fair chance that someone has but a knackered tyre as the spare and used the decent spare on the car. Might well be worth sticking the half decent rear as the spare.
Or if the spare is half decent then use it to replace the knackered rear tyre.
There should not really be that much difference in wear between the 2 rear tyres, so check there isn't a reason for it (eg, bent rear suspension).
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| cagiva gezzer wrote: | | Craig- wrote: | As its FWD it doesn't matter huge amounts about the rear, you'd get away with replacing only one side.
Although most tyre fitters will say replace both on the same axle, but its not detrimental. If it was your fronts then yes, get both replaced at this time of year. |
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Intuition suggests that since the front tires wore out first and because there is still about half of the tread remaining on the rear tires, the new tires should be installed on the front axle. This will provide more wet and wintry traction; and by the time the front tires have worn out for the second time, the rear tires will be worn out, too. However in this case, intuition isn't right...and following it can be downright dangerous.
When tires are replaced in pairs in situations like these, the new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. The reason is because new tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning.
Hydroplaning occurs when the tire cannot process enough water through its tread design to maintain effective contact with the road. In moderate to heavy rain, water can pool up in road ruts, depressions and pockets adjacent to pavement expansion joints. At higher speeds, the standing water often found in these pools challenges a tire's ability to resist hydroplaning.
Exactly when hydroplaning occurs is the result of a combination of elements including water depth, vehicle weight and speed, as well as tire size, air pressure, tread design and tread depth. A lightweight vehicle with wide, worn, underinflated tires in a heavy downpour will hydroplane at lower speeds than a heavyweight vehicle equipped with new, narrow, properly inflated tires in drizzling rain.
If the front tires have significantly less tread depth than the rear tires, the front tires will begin to hydroplane and lose traction on wet roads before the rear tires. While this will cause the vehicle to understeer (the vehicle wants to continue driving straight ahead), understeer is relatively easy to control because releasing the gas pedal will slow the vehicle and help the driver maintain control.
However, if the front tires have significantly more tread depth than the rear tires, the rear tires will begin to hydroplane and lose traction on wet roads before the fronts. This will cause the vehicle to oversteer (the vehicle will want to spin). Oversteer is far more difficult to control and in addition to the initial distress felt when the rear of the car starts sliding, quickly releasing the gas pedal in an attempt to slow down may actually make it more difficult for the driver to regain control, possibly causing a complete spinout. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 320 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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