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m0l0t0v
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 19 Dec 2008    Post subject: Overhauling my brakes Reply with quote

Ok, a couple of weeks ago I decided to change my brake pads. That I did with no problem (aprt from the pin plug being seized Rolling Eyes )

Well, I went for a test ride and tested the brakes. Well it was a disaster as the pads stuck to the discs, got boiling hot and it ende dup doing a stoppie for me when I rolled of the throttle. Had to wait for ages for the discs to cool down and then I was able to push the bike home. Pistons were stuck and it was my guess from all the crap that had gathered over the years.

I bought new seals and copper crush washers to overhaulf the calipers. One thing that was stopping me is the torx bolts. I needed new sockets. Got them today but I had to take a caliper off (and therefore empty my brake lines of brake fluid - needed bleeding anyways).

Now I've got the tool and I can split the calipers no proble. My only problem is getting the pistons out... Now I thought i'd connect the caliper back to the lines and making sure everything is tightened and the holes "meet".

Done so, fill the brake reservoir to the top. I'm pumping the brake lever but no fluid gets into the lines. No build up of pressure. Tried several thngs but no go. So I undo the top banjo bolt by the master cylinder and I squeeze the lever with no brake lines attached or anything.... I see bake fluid move but doesn't even spill out. No matter how hard I even pump the lever it won't even spill out Neutral

Makes me thing maybe my reservoir or master cylinder is fucked?

Can anyone shed any light? I've looked at Stinkwheels' fitting brake lines guide and othger gudies but doesn't mention anything about this problem.

Help please Sad I need the fucking bike for work and I haven't been able to ride for ages. Getting really pissed off now Sad

Edit: Almost tempted to take it into the bike shop and pay them stupid money to do it Sad
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 19 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be that there's too much air in the M/C for it to pump fluid out.

With my hornet you had to bleed the M/C first by having the system closed up and waiting until you didn't get anymore bubbles rising into the reservoir. Then you know the M/C is bled.

You could just get the pistons out with mole grips if they are a bit exposed. Wink

Just wrap them in a cloth first or put wood either side so you don't damage them with the mole grips.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 19 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I have mole grips but I shall look...

As for getting them out. Should be interesting as I can't even push them back in!

I want to ride! and test out my new helmet Very Happy And camera!
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 19 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

try filling a lardge syring with brake fluid attach apiece of small bore hose may be old petrol pipe then fill the system from the bleed nipple forcing fluid in and pushing air out make sure you wash every thing down after with soapy waterthis has always worked for me.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 19 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

sumpgard wrote:
try filling a lardge syring with brake fluid attach apiece of small bore hose may be old petrol pipe then fill the system from the bleed nipple forcing fluid in and pushing air out make sure you wash every thing down after with soapy waterthis has always worked for me.

That works, thats how phil did mine today.
Although no airs coming back on mine, they arnt up to what they used to, o wel better than no brakes Laughing
Compressor is best way to pop the pistons.
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 20 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:
Not sure I have mole grips but I shall look...

As for getting them out. Should be interesting as I can't even push them back in!

I want to ride! and test out my new helmet Very Happy And camera!


You can also use a jubilee clip and some newspaper.

Roll the paper into a tube and wrap it around the piston, put the jubilee clip over the top and tighten it up, then you can use whatever to turn and pull the pistons out e.g. pliers or mole grips if you have them Thumbs Up

I used the same method to lock the flywheel on my Raleigh.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 21 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always found the NC30 brakes a bit of a bitch to bleed as well.

First off get yourself a M/C banjo bolt with a bleed nipple on it. Whip the hoses off and pour some fluid in the calipers. Pop the end of the hoses in the resevoir or a container with fluid, make sure they are submerged and bleed them through. Attach the hoses and bleed the calipers and the master cylinder. I always bleed them again after a few days, particularly the M/C as air seems to get trapped up there.

Brakes were stonking after that Thumbs Up
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