It training courses and the like.

_Will_ · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Karma :

Are these Job-guaranteed-in-IT after completing courses any cop?

Been thinking about it, got a bit of an aptitude for it and wondering if its all worth doing?
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Irezumi aka Reuben · Carrot Top Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Karma :

All a con.

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plugger147 · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Karma :

Most of these course are a con, the plumbing/electrical ones are shit as nobody wants to take you on with some unheard of certificate. I looked into the driving instructors courses and they are a major rip off with only 28% finishing and passing part 3.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

IT is a big area. Could mean helpdesk monkey, just recording the problems people have with IT systems and passing them on for someone else to deal with. Could be a skilled job.

Personally I would say most of the courses are a con.

All the best

Keith
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r1_lad · Spanner Monkey Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Karma :

RHCE should get you around £37k starting, more in London.

RedHat keep the pass rate at around 30% to keep value in the qualification. Also, the whole exam is under NDA so can't be discussed and it's therefore very hard to find information about what goes on in the exam online.
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smegbrains · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Karma :

I would suggest you think about doing what I'm doing. If you don't have any formal qualifications in IT, get a job working as a schools IT tech.

The one I have required nothing more than 5 GCSE passes, and a demonstrable aptitude with computers.

I am learning huge amounts doing this job, and also gaining experience at the same time. A lot of the guys who worked for our unit have now moved onto private IT companies or running their own schools/colleges/unis and are earning and doing well.

It's all about what you put into it, and what you get out in return. I get free training with official certifications (MCSE, Cisco, etc.) from within the unit, a reasonable salary and a fantastic team to work with. In return for this, I put all I have into my job and get amazing satisfaction, respect and best of all I'll have a glowing reference when it comes time to move on.

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LeeR · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Karma :

Yeah, sadly they are a bit of a con, I went for an "interview" a few years ago, I already have a degree but needed a more up to date skill-set.

Turns out they wanted to offer me a series of M$ certified courses, C# uber-guru, SQL Server maint/admin god, and I think web developer with ASP.Not.

Total cost £34k of which I was expected to provide 50% funding, then they'd find me a job via their own agency, or not as the case maybe.

Fortunately I didn't have the funds or the means of raising them, thankfully I don't have a mortgage etc...

I think one or two courses to a certain level will get you started as a fairly clued-up developer, C# + SQL but you don't need the amount or depth to which these firms try to sell you.

I reckon a HNC/HND either part-time or evening at a local tech would get you started.
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virus · World Chat Champion Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Karma :

I agree with leeR.

Get yourself onto a HND/HNC in computing at your local college. systems support is the path you want to follow.

When I was at college they offered to put me through the cisco CCNA course for free (normally quite expensive aparently) and that certificate is garuanteed job, because the pass rate is so low.

If youve got a CCNA theres nothing you dont know about networking pretty much, job for life, I wish I hadnt failed, I might not be a warehouse monkey if Id passed.

Cheers
John
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