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Noxious89123
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Inline 4 Monkey bike ~ and other one off machines Reply with quote

How kickass is this!

https://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/05/30/honda-125cc-inline-4-cylinder-monkey-bike/

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to dis the monkey but not too keen on the engine to be honest.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow those cylinder are tiny , looks like a decent bike though Thumbs Up

personally would still prefer the low down power of a single on a monkey bike though
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg i love the sound of that Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks quite cool. But something like a YX150 or YX160 engine (Horizontal 4 stroke single) would still probably kick its arse.



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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a little pit bike, looks like a laugh Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't somebody stick a bandit engine in a money bike once? I reckon that would trash that one easily .
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you go about splicing engines into each other?

Obviosly its a high-skill task, there was a article in Classic Motorcycle Mechanics and this old fella did engine mods himself.

Added one or more cylinder to stock bikes.

One of the best I've ever seen is a IL4 200cc Mobylette built in turkey.

I wouldnt mind a MZ 500 twin or 750 triple Rolling Eyes .

I think the hardest part is getting a crank to fit. Any ideas how its done?

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PostPosted: 15:22 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
I think the hardest part is getting a crank to fit. Any ideas how its done?


If they start with a multi cylinder 2 stroke then they probably just use multiple central bits of the crank and press a complete new longer crank together. If so probably one of the easier bits of the job.

About 20 years ago in PB there was an article about a bike built up using 3 Mobylette barrels on a common crank, with the resulting engine put into a Gilera moped frame. Builder called it the Gilette G3.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:12 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
If so probably one of the easier bits of the job.





Haha.

Put me to rest then... Laughing

I always wanted a moby 400cc V8.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pretty cool looking "things" on the links on the right hand side Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Some pretty cool looking "things" on the links on the right hand side Thumbs Up


No shit!

https://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/05/10/radial-engine-powered-motorcycle/

Chopper with a Radial engine! Shocked
https://thekneeslider.com/images/radialbike.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

or this behemoth https://thekneeslider.com/images/gunbus-1.jpg


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PostPosted: 21:37 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://thekneeslider.com/images/x4500b.jpg

https://thekneeslider.com/images/x4500h.jpg

An X4 engine. Believed to be a 500cc 2 stroke.

If it is a 2 stroke, I'm not sure that exhaust will be very effective.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks interesting...

https://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/10/15/tss-rs500-2-cylinder-2-stroke/
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

T0MMY wrote:


RD350 engine with a 535cc Banshee big bore kit all crammed into a Mito frame has the same result Wink
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Gunbus" seems to be a very appropriate, badass sounding name! Wonder if it corners like a normal bike. The tyres seem to be rounded like normal bike tyres Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Bittern wrote:
I think the hardest part is getting a crank to fit. Any ideas how its done?


If they start with a multi cylinder 2 stroke then they probably just use multiple central bits of the crank and press a complete new longer crank together. If so probably one of the easier bits of the job.

About 20 years ago in PB there was an article about a bike built up using 3 Mobylette barrels on a common crank, with the resulting engine put into a Gilera moped frame. Builder called it the Gilette G3.

All the best

Keith


Hold on are you saying that crazy idea I had once whereby I join the cranks of two what appear to be lorry engines is actually possible? whereby I just have to take the crank case off one side , weld together the crank and remove some of the output gearing on one side is actually possible? ..

There are 3 abandoned lorries and they look enourmous behind my dad's house in Hong Kong, so in effect I can build 1500 hp 6,300 Nm torque 6000 kilo 4 lanes wide bike (that needs a HGV licence a car licence AND a bike licence to ride?).

I always thought joining cranks was incredibly hard...
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 03 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

2 stroke cranks (well, bike ones) are generally pressed together. If the crank is made up so there is a central main bearing with a couple of crank webs into which the neighbouring big end pins are pressed then it would just be a case of sourcing several of these centre sections to press together (vibration might hurt). A competant machinist could probably make up these sections.

Can't think of a pressed together 4 stroke crank (although no doubt there is one) which would make joining them more difficult.

There is also the issue of how strong the crank is. For example say the basic engine can put out 6000Nm of torque, and transmits that to the gearbox via the clutch from the end of the crank. If you weld your 3 cranks together and get 18000Nm of torque then you need the end of your crank to be strong enough to transmit that toruq (even before you need a clutch or gearbox to take it).

Think people have bolted together stupid number of chambers from Mazda RX7 rotary engines together to make very large engines. No idea how they run.

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:01 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds nice...almost as nice as mine. Wink Laughing

Doesn't seem very quick though... Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:


That is a custom bike for sure!
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
Doesn't seem very quick though... Thinking


Because it's still got a tiny engine Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw this one!

https://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/08/03/radial-engine-motorcycle-at-oshkosh/

https://thekneeslider.com/images/radialmotorcycle1a.jpg

Found a video of it on youtube!
https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GUx35zuI5GI
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

To me the interesting bit isn't whether it is quicker or not (and the advantage of more cylinder is that you can rev it harder and get power that way), but the amount of work and effort that has gone into it.

There is a guy who made a couple of bikes by merging several engines. This V12 using 2 Z1300 engines as a basis:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/z2300.jpg

He also did a V8 based on 2 Z900s (in the background of that pic) and there was a V twin using (I think) a pair of Honda C50 engines.

Remember that French guy who built a model Ferrari, complete with working V12 engine?

All the best

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