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PostPosted: 20:04 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: How uncomfortable are sports bikes? Reply with quote

When people say that sports bikes are uncomfortable how uncomfortable do they mean?

My only real point for comparison is an SV650S which I found to be perfectly comfortable, even for doing lots of motorway miles.

I always thought people doing long commutes on sports bikes were some kind of sadists but is it really that bad? For example how would a 1998-2003 R6 compare to say a Fazer?
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bit of advice:

Grow some.

A sports bike can be hard on the wrists and back but after a little while you get used to the new position and you'll be laughing.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Grow some.


i did and at 6"3 Laughing i found even the largest sportsbike i tested (daytona 650) felt cramped.

i suspect it's more what you are willing to put up with. The best bit of advice would be to test ride a few and see how you feel.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, indeed, grow some turnip, a delightful addition to any meal. Wonderful advice there WTD Thumbs Up

Sports bikes, are like Irish people, they are all slightly nutty, all different whilst being the same Thumbs Up

They are not that uncomfortable (apart from a few extreme cases) once you get used to them, you did say on another thread you were a short ar$e so may struggle to get your feet down... still shouldn't put you off trying one at least Cool
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride faster the wind should hit your chest and lift you up a touch taking the weight off your wrists, which is why I think double bubble screens are not that great.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

from plying rugby I've got a lump on the back of my neck (known as a hookers hump btw) this stops me lifting my head far enough for me to comfortably see where I'm going for any length of time, after a little while I start to get pain in between my shoulder blades where I'm pushing my head back against my hump, and this pain just gets worse untill its unbearable.

weight on your wrists can get a bit painfull if you are riding through town for any length of time but a bit of speed takes that weight away so is fine.

it all comes down to how determined you are to ride the bike of your choice, I had a enough of being uncomfortable so bought a Tuono which is nice and upright, I've now got a Beemer which is in a different league. Cool
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
Best bit of advice:

Grow some.



An odd bit of advice.

I now would not get a sports bike as I have always ridden Trails type bikes and like the more upright riding position. I also like the leg room that my Varadero gives me. But I would not be against others getting one for comfort. It is an individual choice.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres the thing...
they really ARENT as uncomfortable as people say.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know about an out an out sports bike. I'm 6'3 on a cbr 600f and it isn't all that bad, my knee aches here an there from bein cramped but its also carrying an old injury. My back aches on occassion but nothin horrendous. Fairly comfortable i think Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different people find different bikes more or less comfortable.

I only found my old GSXR400 uncomfortable for the first 3 weeks or so of riding, but it was my first ever bike, apart from that I've not found any bikes uncomfortable.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fazer would be comfort.
R6 would be hell.

But I do get random pains in my back etc.

Everyone is different, but for comfort I wouldn't look at sport bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode an NC29 for a year, And an NC30 for about 6 months. 2 of the smallest Sports bikes out there.

Not only that, I had rear-set adjusters on both bikes, which moved the pegs up, I also lowered the front by 15mm on the NC29 and 12mm on the NC30. So it was very heavy on the front end on both bikes.


It was uncomfortable at first. Heavy on the wrists. ESPECIALLY on the NC30 as the seat height was more "over" the bars and the NC29.

I found gripping the tank with my knees on long runs, took the weight off my wrists.

Like has been said, You get used to it. You will ache at first. But after a few 1000 miles. You wont even notice.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: How uncomfortable are sports bikes? Reply with quote

jonnyt wrote:
When people say that sports bikes are uncomfortable how uncomfortable do they mean?

My only real point for comparison is an SV650S which I found to be perfectly comfortable, even for doing lots of motorway miles.

I always thought people doing long commutes on sports bikes were some kind of sadists but is it really that bad? For example how would a 1998-2003 R6 compare to say a Fazer?


Its a good question. I found the pointy SV to be very uncomfortable, but I found the curvy SV to be very comfortable. Similarly, I found many sportsbikes to be very very comfortable. My Speed four for example is supremely comfortable. It has a great balance of clip ons which aren't too low, pegs which aren't too high and a wide squishy seat. The most uncomfortable bike that I've owned is probably the Triumph Daytona 955i, because it had stupendously low clip ons, and a high hard seat with high pegs. {edit} actually my NC30 was more uncomfortable - similar overall shape but a lot smaller {edit}

I found an early R6 to be an armchair in comparison, because it has relatively high clip ons. Personally I'd say its all down to your preference, and I'd get a test ride on each bike you are considering. Some people really like upright bikes with flat bars for example, but I don't like them because it puts pressure on my lower back. Bikes with lower bars or clip ons suit me better because my back is in a better position.

Try some bikes out, and see how you get on Thumbs Up Smile
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Depends on the bike, the rider and also where you are riding it.

A sports bike trying to filter through hot summer city centre traffic jams is a total pain.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:43 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR800?
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm a shortarsed skinny bugger (5'2" with 29" inside leg), the only sports bike i've ever ridden is my GSXR750ws (1995 vintage) so i can't compare it to any other ...

when i first got it, it was totally alien to ride, it killed my arse in about 50miles (felt like i was sat on a block of wood) my forearms and wrists were screaming about 50 miles further on, i thought i was very unlikely to enjoy riding it and i'd still gotta finish the run to Barmouth then get home....

18 months on and i have no trouble, i've learnt how to sit myself comfortable on it, as said get the speed up a bit (close to licence killing speeds) and the wind takes some of the weight off your arms/wrists, but the speed isn't essential for me as being short i can rest the bottom of my ribs on the tank, thus taking some more of the weight off my arms ....

the only time it hurts now is if i'm stupid enough to go for a rideout on it whilst in the company of a mate who has a combo, he has a tendency to go no faster than 55-60mph which then means i'm leaning on the bars way too much for comfort, i do have an iffy back (trapped a nerve years ago) but so far it hasn't aggravated it at all ....

i don't use any of my bikes for serious transport so i've never commuted daily on them so can't comment on that side of things, filtering i find a little trickier as my view is slightly restricted compared to my slabby or any other bike i've ridden
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: How uncomfortable are sports bikes? Reply with quote

jonnyt wrote:
For example how would a 1998-2003 R6 compare to say a Fazer?

Like it has already been said, everyone is different and will find different things either comfy or not. As a general rule and to use your example of an R6 and a Fazer - the Fazer is going to be the more comfortable one of the two everytime. If you are comparing the supersport model to the equivalent sports-tourer model then the sports-tourer will be designed to be more distance friendly and hence will have a less radical sitting position.

That said whilst you are young it is perfectly possible to live with a supersports bike such as an R6. I have even been all the way to the Nurburgring on mine and although it wasn't as comfy as the GSX1400 & VFR800 bikes/riders that I travelled with, I still managed it.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The seating positon that could be comfortable to one person is not neccessarily going to be the same for another individual. We are all different after all.

Im not very tall but the C6f 636 I had used to kill me. The seating position was a little cramped so my wrists, back and neck couldnt really put up with it for long. One of the worst parts was the seat, it would dig into my legas and give me numb bum like nothing else. As a secondary to that the constantly screaming engine (whilst fun on the thrash) would grate after a while when all you were trying to do was go to work. I had a limit of about 50 miles on the ZX6R and I needed a break.

My CBR6 on the other hand wasnt too bad, it had its distance limits too but was more in the 100's than the track focused ninja. Its probably worth noting that before the CBR I had an RS125 that I managed a trip to scotland on that only really tortured me towards the end.

Current bike (not sure if its classed as sportsbike though, probably more sports tourer) is nice and comfortable for me and although I havent done 100's of miles in one go yet Ive definately done over 90 in one go without a stop and I was fine.

Horses for courses, were all different I suppose! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to ride my tiny little CBR400RR from Edinburgh to Bristol and back and never found it all that bad. I find anything but clip ons feels unnatural to me though, don't like upright riding positions at all. My CBR600 is of course very comfy but then it magically morphed into a sports tourer in about 1999 apparently Laughing I imagine if you're tall sportsbikes can be a bit cramped but I'm average height.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

Depends on the bike, the rider and also where you are riding it.

A sports bike trying to filter through hot summer city centre traffic jams is a total pain.

Just to prove Keith's first point... in the past I've done commuting through a town centre on a RS250 and not found it a bit problem. Oddly enough, I actually found Bendy's CBR600f less comfortable if anything.

I've also found what I find comfortable change as I've got different bikes and got used to them.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Fazer would be comfort.
R6 would be hell.


Totally agree.

The rear pegs on the new R6's are far far far far far too high up.

You should go to the MCN show in London at the end of the month, go sit on everything?
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 04 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that the sort of people that bitch on about sportsbikes being uncomfortable are the 50+ type that have never ridden one or only get their dry Sunday afternoon 'Pan' out with the missus on the back with matching helmets and reflective strips.
FFS !! These people really pi$$ me off. Over the last 15 years I have had a Blade, R1, GSXR1000, Hayabusa and now back on a new Blade. I had a pho-paa on my R1 and broke my wrist, and still ride a sports bike.
Like any bike, you get used to it. I don't like upright bikes, they are uncomfortable for me, have I ridden them ? yes. Do I bitch about it? no.

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve.r wrote:
I would say that the sort of people that bitch on about sportsbikes being uncomfortable are the 50+ type that have never ridden one


Or the 30+ yo type that have owned them. Thumbs Up

To the op, what about a sports tourer?
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

when people say uncomfortable, all they mean is you might ache a bit after a hard days ride. going out for an hour blat, you dont get off and ache, your thankful to stand up but you dont ache really.

i have the most uncomfortable bike ever invented and i dont find it an issue at all.


just to compare i had an sv650s and went to an r6, the r6 is actually more comfortable because the tanks not as huge, bars are a tad lower and feet futher back but if you find the sv comfy a sprotsbike wont bother you at all.
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

riding a Honda CG 125 and Yamaha YBR 125 i can say that they are really unconfortable for anything more then 30 minutes. Riding my NSR for 3 hours is not unconfortable at all. People say about pain in the wrists and that but for some reason i have not experienced any pain there Confused
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