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PostPosted: 12:06 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: my head hurts Reply with quote

cant decide which car i want next, doing my head in.

1. scoda fabia vrs, 1.9 tdi, 130hp, ins group 9, roundabout 7k to buy with 30k miles. can be "chipped" to apparantly give 180hp, more torque, and same economy. looks quite understated though:

https://www.alexlawrieskoda.co.uk/skoda-blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/fabia-vrs.jpg

2. focus st170: varied opinion on the looks, however i think its quite cool. 2.0 petrol with "apparantly" 170hp (some are a bit less, aparantly) interior is bril though if you can get one with the leather recaros, the one i loked at was 04 reg, 6.5k, heated seats, cd changer, switchable TC, ect. too heavy though?

https://www.alexallingham.co.uk/images/FocusST170m.jpg


oh, and a fiesta st my brother might sell soon. his one has the optional interior; without it the standard car is prtty rank tbh. but inside is a nice place to be and its pretty damned quick, 2.0 153hp. and being as its my brothers i know its been serviced, not thrashed too much, ect.

https://www.carztune.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ford-fiesta-st-by-mountune.jpg

but then, no idea what i'll be doing in 5 years ect, cause im gonna have whicherever one for quite a while so i gotta live with it... any thoughts?
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I really dislike Fords so out of those three I'd go with the Fabia.

Thought about a Leon Cupra / Golf GTi ?
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to complain about the stupidity of dropping 7k on a car at the beginning of a recession...

...now I just want to know why you believe et cetera is somehow abbreviated to bloody ect.

Sounds like the noise you make when you get a kick to the nuts.

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PostPosted: 17:20 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
I was going to complain about the stupidity of dropping 7k on a car at the beginning of a recession...



Yes, good point. I wish somebody would of pointed out that my car was about to loose £10k 18 months ago. Doh!
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowninja wrote:


Yes, good point. I wish somebody would of pointed out that my car was about to loose £10k 18 months ago. Doh!


Will til the recession /really/ bites.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:


Will til the recession /really/ bites.


Fortunately I have a guaranteed buy back value from BMW. Very Happy

If I keep the vehicle for that long and they buy it back then I will be driving something a little more economical.

Doesn't stop me from looking at new cars though! Rolling Eyes I got a V8 scratch that needs itching bad, but as you said, it's the wrong economical climate to go splashing out on something I might not be able to afford to run if/when the shit really does hit the fan.

BMW 645s are at a very temptingly low price at the moment though! Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowninja wrote:




Fortunately I have a guaranteed buy back value from BMW. Very Happy


Cheeky.

Luckily running the CBR is cheap as hell, but I'm thinking of getting an ickle bomb proof 125 again to just tug out the winter on. But that said, my CBR is too old and crusty to be a dedicated summer toy.

But I'd imagine a hell of a lot of people are going to start shifting towards bikes soon. Just a tad more cost effective.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yellowninja wrote:
Personally, I really dislike Fords so out of those three I'd go with the Fabia.

Thought about a Leon Cupra / Golf GTi ?


i've been in a gti, and it was dissapointing. Neutral

leon cupra... well, ive never really like seats, but i might try one. aren't they really expensive to insure though?

btw, this isnt the beggining of a recession, that was ages ago wasnt it? Wink
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukamon wrote:


btw, this isnt the beggining of a recession, that was ages ago wasnt it? Wink


Quite. The 50p drop is petrol prices at the pump is a fantastic sign Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pah even Gordo has owned up and said the recession will last till 2011, except that 2 negative quarters are a recession 4-6 are a depression , I think though it'll last till 2015....

take note the Japanese lost decade is still going on 19 years after the crash.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
But I'd imagine a hell of a lot of people are going to start shifting towards bikes soon. Just a tad more cost effective.


Only more cost effective if you're running a CG125 on crossplies, and doing all the work yourself.

For just about anything else, offset the fairly small fuel saving* against the price of an oil change ever 3000 miles or less, plugs and air filter yearly, the cost of a crash, the cost of parts failing (face it, bike reliability is shit) and worst of all tyres. A bike will eat through £150 worth of tyres (cheap radials in common sizes) in 4-5k miles, whereas on a small car that value in tyres will last 30k+.

*40mpg from a small car against 80mpg from a small bike, over 10,000 miles, with fuel around 85ppl, isn't huge.

So reasonable fuel saving, small tax saving, big loss everywhere else. And you get to be cold as well.

We may see small bikes getting bought up, but I expect to also see a good lot of 1-3 year old, low mileage mid-high capacity bikes coming onto the market as the recession bites. No good for me, I want a shit 250.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a st170, was an excellent motor, nippy, comfy and handled like it was on rails.

be careful with chipping the skoda as the power output increased by the chip can knacker the turbo and will keep knackering any subsequent turbo you fit.

alternatives golf gt tdi can be got on a y/x plate for less than £3500 if you shop around.

also the seat leon fr/cupra are a top motor, but i beleive the cupras are a little pricey still.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukamon wrote:

i've been in a gti, and it was dissapointing. Neutral

leon cupra... well, ive never really like seats, but i might try one. aren't they really expensive to insure though?



I suppose it depends on your personal circumstances and what you call expensive, but the standard 180hp Cupra is only 1 insurance group higher than the ST170, and the 225hp Cupra R is 2 higher.

I haven't driven a Golf GTi for about 7 years, but I quite liked it (I was used to driving a Mk3 Fiesta at the time though, so anything would of felt much better!).

The 2.0 GTi doesn't deserve the badge, so if it's one of those that you've been in then try a 1.8t or possibly 2.3 V5.

Or as someone else mentioned, the GT TDi, but be aware that they aren't as reliable as people seem to think and can cost quite a bit should a turbo or DMF go down.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 05 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gt tdi? my only experience of them is watching a fairly new one pull away from a set of lights. initally i mistook it for a transit before i looked, becuase the diesel ratlles SO much Sad
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PostPosted: 01:35 - 06 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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aren't they really expensive to insure though?


My current diesel family car cost me £265 to insure with Priviledge, Priviledge returned me the cheapest quote on a Leon Cupra at £305, so not that bad really.

As for the price of cars being effected by recession, my sister just traded her 2006 Golf GTi with DSG and the xenon kit with only 20k on the clock and got just under £10,000. For a car that cost circa £22k 2 years and twenty thousand miles ago thats a big kick in the balls, especially when VW still think they make decent cars!! Although trade-ins will always be bad that was the best she was offered. Shocking really.[/i]
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 06 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

NU wanter £1500 to insure my 1.6 x reg fiesta zetec - s Laughing

(i only paid 650 in the end cause my bro's (mates cousins great aunt) works for them Mr. Green

they're all over 21's only with NU though, apparantly i should be able to coax the underwriters into it after feb when ive passed 2 years Thumbs Up
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