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PostPosted: 18:03 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS2MATRIX wrote:
ffs Confused someone posts, what seems to be a genuine bargain, and suddenly the spam police are stamping their authority, detective inspector Ham, is it ok if i post a for sale thread?

No, it is not ok if you post a for sale post here; it would get moved. Smile
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
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Personally I think shop staff advertising biking bargains this way is fantastic. Far more useful than word of mouth, and establishes a rapport between the retailer and the customer, leaving the way open for possible special offer exclusives Confused


I see what you mean, but if we allowed every motorcycle site and shop to advertise their bargains in the way of posts we'd be having to wade through so many it would be pointless visiting the forum.

If any of you have ever read the guidelines you'd see that it is NOT classed as spam is it's bike related.

I know the person who made the thread, they're also a member of gixerjunkies and offer us some really good deals.


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Non bike related adverts are not welcome here. However if you have a topical product or service you are welcome to advertise it in the Exchange & Mart section or a special interests section (Supermoto, Racing, etc). Please note, however, that this is a priviledge and posting repeatedly or trying to 'hard sell' your ad may begin to draw flak from other forum users.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you read the karma guidelines it makes no distintion between bike and non-bike related....

lllN30lll wrote:


Guidelines
Thou Shalt Not Spam
Non bike related adverts are not welcome here. However if you have a topical product or service you are welcome to advertise it in the Exchange & Mart section or a special interests section (Supermoto, Racing, etc). Please note, however, that this is a priviledge and posting repeatedly or trying to 'hard sell' your ad may begin to draw flak from other forum users.


Not in general bike chat, only in exchange and mart or special interest sections.

As I've said I have no problem with it if it's in the correct section.
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing that annoyed me was more that someone with a vested interest in selling a product is using BCF's general chat section to advertise their warez.

Its irrelevant if it is technically defined as spam or not.

The person is using BCF as free advertising, will they donate 10% of the profits from sales generated here to korn for increased bandiwidth? i doubt it...
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lllN30lll
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
The thing that annoyed me was more that someone with a vested interest in selling a product is using BCF's general chat section to advertise their warez.

Its irrelevant if it is technically defined as spam or not.

The person is using BCF as free advertising, will they donate 10% of the profits from sales generated here to korn for increased bandiwidth? i doubt it...

If Korn ever answered any of his PM's, Emails then yes he probably would get a forum discount. But no, Korn doesn't even know this forums still running AFAIK.


FYI This is Korns Posting rules regarding spam.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=21811&highlight=spam+bike+related



PS granted, they may have chosen the wrong section, but it's not a for sale item, it's an offer/discount on items.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:

PS granted, they may have chosen the wrong section, but it's not a for sale item, it's an offer/discount on items.


It is a for sale item, read the top post again.

It's not even a discount exclusive to the forum, it's for anyone, therefore it is advertising a for sale item, the fact it is discounted is trivial.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do us a favour Mr HG, future posts in the relevant section so us who are interested know where to look if needs be Wink
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
If any of you have ever read the guidelines you'd see that it is NOT classed as spam is it's bike related.
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if you have a topical product or service you are welcome to advertise it in the Exchange & Mart section or a special interests section (Supermoto, Racing, etc). Please note, however, that this is a priviledge and posting repeatedly or trying to 'hard sell' your ad may begin to draw flak from other forum users.

Yet it's in General Bike chat Smile.
I've always considered it good manners to find out the rules a forum has on advertising before posting Smile (and follow them, of course).

Korn has attended the forum when it's required, but considering the amount of crap people email him about, I'm not surprised he gave up answering long before he gave up obviously using the forum.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
Do us a favour Mr HG, future posts in the relevant section so us who are interested know where to look if needs be Wink

she's a girl Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
swiftb38 wrote:
Do us a favour Mr HG, future posts in the relevant section so us who are interested know where to look if needs be Wink

she's a girl Laughing


Embarassed

Sorry Mrs-miss

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PostPosted: 22:33 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

really don't have a problem with this type of spam.

great to know when bargains are to be had.

stokeheingericke, can you pm me when boots are on special?
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

swiftb38 wrote:
Do us a favour Mr HG, future posts in the relevant section so us who are interested know where to look if needs be Wink
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Spam, wrong section, post entirely to do with selling an item by a commercial operation, not an individual.

Hardly ever see posts from this user on other topics either.

Don't understand why you would necessarily want to be made aware of this anyway. Personally, I would have thought that buying leathers is an fairly irregular occurnace, and would need a lot of research, which would involve checking at HG for offers anyway. Confused

Perhaps people do drop 150squid on impulse, but I know I don't.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I seem to be getting from this thread is because the guy works for HG it is spam when he tells us. However if I was to go to HG and find out the EXACT SAME information it is not spam?

All I can say is cheers, if I had the cash I'd buy a set, however my house mate has just bought a bike and needs gear so I will show him this.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a concept: why not make your own website (something like, nameofyourcompany.com) then you can advertise all of your deals on there?

Sounds crazy I know, but then people can continue use this site to chat about bikes. If they want to know about your deals, they can visit your website.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question is where do we draw the line in that Louise of erm ZX6R fame works for HG and she tells us of the bargains HG has in her store...

I suppose that Louise has been a BCF contributer for ages and this new user is erm new..
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think if it was a BCF exclusive, then fine, but it's not, it's just general advertising, which is spam. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Question is where do we draw the line in that Louise of erm ZX6R fame works for HG and she tells us of the bargains HG has in her store...

I suppose that Louise has been a BCF contributer for ages and this new user is erm new..


...with a Hein Gericke username and advertising Hein Gericke in the sig. The forum is for individuals, not companies.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Question is where do we draw the line in that Louise of erm ZX6R fame works for HG and she tells us of the bargains HG has in her store...


Yea i was going to mention that too, but then like you i realised she actually contributes to the forum, rather than registering with the sole purpose to promote HG...

ncrn: yes, if you were to go into HG see leathers for 150 and then come back here saying 'guys theres a deal on at HG for....' that wouldn't be spam, you have no vested interest to sell leathers for them, I think the crux of this argument comes down to that, if someone has joined and only posts advertisements for their company its spam, or unsolicited advertising at the least, If its on occasional heads-up by a member then IMO its something different...
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's about time some people chilled out and left the confines of their little internet world.

I mean, this bloke is trying to do us a favour, and people on here start acting like traffic wardens. This forum is moderated, let them do their job if and as they see fit.

Grow up.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have mentioned one or two sales that we did have on.
I have no intentions in spamming this forum - I would like to keep my gold blobs Smile
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevoriv wrote:


I mean, this bloke is trying to do us a favour, and people on here start acting like traffic wardens. This forum is moderated, let them do their job if and as they see fit.

Grow up.


Hes not trying to do us a favour, hes doing his job, trying to sell things...
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
trevoriv wrote:


I mean, this bloke is trying to do us a favour, and people on here start acting like traffic wardens. This forum is moderated, let them do their job if and as they see fit.

Grow up.


Hes not trying to do us a favour, hes doing his job, trying to sell things...


Does he get any personal gain from it? Probably not.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
trevoriv wrote:


I mean, this bloke is trying to do us a favour, and people on here start acting like traffic wardens. This forum is moderated, let them do their job if and as they see fit.

Grow up.


Hes not trying to do us a favour, hes doing his job, trying to sell things...


Okay, fair enough but equally he is trying to help us out. Plus at those prices I doubt anyone is making any money from the sales.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright i accept some might find it useful, i just found it distasteful for an employee to sign up with the intention of advertising stuff..
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