'Dangerous Driving'?

[brianmcewan.co.uk]

I got pulled tonight, was probably going to happen sooner or later.

I admit I was driving like a dick, sitting at the lights on the Shore Road before Greenisland I pulled a wheelie (bad habit)... when I got just past the shop at the bottom of Greenisland they pulled me in an unmarked Passat.

Admitted right away I was driving like an idiot as I knew they had seen me but didn't mention anything about the wheelie in case they didn't see it.

She said right away it was dangerous driving not driving without due care and attention. I know it was careless but there was no traffic in front of me and it was a wide open road (no excuse I know)

Asked was it restricted, I said it was and she looked at me with a smile knowing rightly it wasn't. I played the nice guy as I knew I was caught red handed.

Got a producer for my license as I had nothing on me and she checked my insurance. Was filling out a statement asking what happened when I took off from the lights... I said I accelerated too quickly. She then said she seen the bike on the rear wheel... was tempted to say its always on the rear wheel as well as the front but didn't. Then she asked me how far I done it for and I replied not too far... what a dick She asked me did I want to change that, so I changed it to a short distance.

I was so tempted to deny everything but I think they had a camera in the car so didn't want to push my luck but either way I'm fucked...

Probably go to court, anyone any idea what I'll get?

I'm in Northern Ireland if that makes any difference in terms of law, I'm still restricted, with no points. 6 points and I get my license taken off me.
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[Blau Zedong]

Mandatory 1 year ban, possible extended retest, big fine, can also go to prison for it in extreme circumstances. Suggest you start ringing solicitors rather than carping on here about it.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Mate, you should have said it wasn't on the back wheel, it was a trick of the light.
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[TL666]

You fool. Never admit anything. Can't believe you even made a statement about your own driving. In all honesty why did you do that?

[leatherpatche...]

I agree about the statement. If you don't admit to it then it's up to them to prove you did it, which they are unlikely to be able to do. That copper has been handed the evidence.

Too late now though. I also suggest seeking legal advice.

[Pete.]

You're in damage-control territory now. Get a good brief if you don't want to be raped in court.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[Dom_]

First things first.

Do nothing.


Wait for the charge to come through your door. Only then will you know exactly what you've been charged with.

Dangerous Driving is the worst offence you can be hit with (I know as i was charged with it about 18 months ago) you can get a custodial sentence for it which means you can do time. There is also a mandatory 12 month ban with an extended re-test.

Dangerous Driving:
According to current legislation, a driver is guilty of Dangerous Driving if:

* The way he or she drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver; and
* It would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous


When you get charged with it, ring a local solicitors and arrange an interview (you get the first hour free) hopefully you will get legal aid due to the nature of the charge.

The solicitors will advise you from there.

[Blau Zedong]

To expand on my previous post (as I've been there too) - a solicitor will look at the situation and advise if it's at all likely to argue it down to a less serious charge (due care etc). Be prepared for the long haul - it took me ten months and a visit to crown court to get them to buckle and do me for due care. Depending on circumstances you may be elligable for legal aid as it is an offence that can carry a custodial sentence. Go see a solicitor ASAP, but don't expect to make any progress untill the summons lands (the CPS might not actually decide to summons you for dangerous if they think they have no chance of winning) and then your into the rigmarole of getting copies of police statements etc etc.

Good luck.
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[G]

The 'good' thing with dangerous driving is that it's a crown-offence, so tried in front of a jury.

This means that they have to convince twelve members of the public what you were doing was dangerous, not a magistrate that's 'heard it all before'.

I'd agree with Dom for the moment; wait until you've got a summons, though I'd do some reasearch find some decent solicitors in your area, but not give them any money yet.
You've got 7 years to wait it out if you don't get anything, but expect it sooner than that.

Quite a while ago I got pulled for 119mph while undertaking, along with the fact it took them 10.5 miles to catch up with me, despite the fact I'd slowed to 70 only a few miles after they initially saw me.
I was lucky and nothing got done about it; not sure why and I'm not going to complain .

[Shay HTFC]

[brianmcewan.co.uk]

Up in court today, got it redeuced to careless driving, 3 points and £150.

Winner.
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[Yarri]

Woot? They didn't give a fuck that you weren't restricted?
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[Yarri]

Did she leave you her number ?
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[NSR Mick]

[G]

That's not what I was told some time ago (about 5 years now).

Luckily never had to test it out in the end.

[JAMSXR]

Similar thing happened to me, but the thing that helped was the Policeman was a complete dick and that came across in court.

Here is the link to my post:


https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=132230&highlight=
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[Cigaro]

Did she actually say she was reporting you? You might get lucky if she was in a good mood...

edit: Didn't read your post. Glad you got it sorted.

[NSR Mick]

[Shaun]

I was sent to magistrates with my dangerous driving charge, they agreed to lower it to without due care & attention if I pleaded guilty though.