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ribrage
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Advice on bike choice Reply with quote

Hi All

I am having a mid life crisis and thinking about buying a bike, i used to own a pe250 and then an xr 350 then had 3 kids and a millstone around my neck.
kids have grown up and cleared off(ish) and i hanker for some offroading again, nothing to heavy a little green laning and maybe a laid back event for old farts if there is such a thing ??
I want a light weight quickish roadlegal enduro machine, reliable, and cheap on parts.
also any info on clubs local to Poole/Bournemouth or like minded bike owners that want company of a weekend out laning ?

all advice gratefully received

Ta Ian
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JBurrows88
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 16 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on your budget and how many miles you will be doing. Do you want to use it for other than trail riding?

2-strokes are light, but as G has one i'll leave that to him as i've never ridden a 2smoke offroad. I've been toying of having a "fun" bike whilst at uni... Something similar. KTM do quite a large range of 4 strokes and 2 strokes.

Yamaha have introduced the new WR250 which has 6 gears and i've had a short blast on one. They are ok... but lacked power on the road, but might be more fun offroad.

XR250 is a solid reliable offroad bike, however they seemed to be over pricey for what they are! Guess you have to look hard to find one thats not been abused and not overpriced!
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ribrage
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 17 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget is around 2k will be using it for a short commute on sunny days and mainly laning, i will be looking to join a local club or get to know some body else with one.

I have been looking at the ktm 200 exc Im tempted down the 2 stroke route lighter in weight etc.......... opinions please
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silky666
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 18 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha WR is all you need.
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GRUFF
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 18 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking of getting a WR myself, thing is i'll need it for a small bit of commuting. I assume it doesn't have a steering lock or key ignition so aside from chains it's pretty unsecure. That's a bit worrying for me. Also i think a lot of insurance companies wouldn't like the no key ignition either.
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silky666
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRUFF wrote:
I'm thinking of getting a WR myself, thing is i'll need it for a small bit of commuting. I assume it doesn't have a steering lock or key ignition so aside from chains it's pretty unsecure. That's a bit worrying for me. Also i think a lot of insurance companies wouldn't like the no key ignition either.


If your concerns are steering locks and ignition keys ... then you will need something like a road legal DRZ.
As for insurance... mine is £72 a year and they have never asked if it has ignition etc.
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michael j
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
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If your concerns are steering locks and ignition keys ... then you will need something like a road legal DRZ.
As for insurance... mine is £72 a year and they have never asked if it has ignition etc.


My gasser has no locks or ignition which I pointed out to the insurance company. They still insured it fully comp for £130/ year.
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G
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: Advice on bike choice Reply with quote

I've got a 200EXC and I think it's ideal for club-enduro events.
When you're halfway up a hill trying to pick the bike up, the weight difference is quite noticeable over a 4 stroke!
Even compared to a Husaberg (lighter than the WR) it feels almost toy-like in it's lightness and size (actually it's about the same size, but it's just the 'feel'.)

Note that the 200 as standard has a very revvy/peaky nature, requiring you to really try keep up a good pace. The 300, while it's got even more power at the top is easier to ride at a 'medium' pace.

I've heard of people commuting on the 2 stroke EXCs fine; though not sure I'd do it regularly myself. The bigger cc ones are probably a bit better for this.

Not sure about Poole etc, but a bit further North (I'm in Reading), there's the 'Chiltern Hills Enduro Club' which is definitely on the 'friendly' side... they have four hour races, but with a an hour lunch break, which makes it a bit more 'manageable'.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

silky666 wrote:
Yamaha WR is all you need.


Only if you have the ghey.

XR all the way Wink

Join the TRF to find local riders who will show you the lanes.
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GRUFF
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

michael j wrote:
silky666 wrote:
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If your concerns are steering locks and ignition keys ... then you will need something like a road legal DRZ.
As for insurance... mine is £72 a year and they have never asked if it has ignition etc.


My gasser has no locks or ignition which I pointed out to the insurance company. They still insured it fully comp for £130/ year.


Oh really? I thought you would have to pay through the roof to insure a bike with no locks or ignition. Oh well, i'm siding with the WR again then.

What do you use to secure your bike when you use it for commuting? Any particular make of chains, locks etc???
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GRUFF wrote:

i'm siding with the WR again then.

What do you use to secure your bike when you use it for commuting? Any particular make of chains, locks etc???


You wont regret getting a WR - proper bike (the XR owners tend to talk with a bit of a lisp - be cautious around them)

I am lucky in the fact that I park in a secure car park for work.
But do venture in public ones during the summer ... and just have a meaty chain wrapped around the handlebars, and a disc lock.
Then find something to chain it to, fit the disc lock, and take the plug cap off and tuck it away somewhere (stops little nobbers starting the bike and leaving it running)
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GRUFF
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the plug cap idea makes sense, i was just thinking to myself if i left the bike chained up the little shits would have fun starting it up lol

Work isn't a problem for me either, i'm a CCTV operator & have cameras watching the parking area outside my work so no worries there.

Definately tempted now, although just to check it is under 33BHP right? A 250 i mean!

Also whats the Honda CRF250X like? Seen a few of those riding around.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth making a "I'm the CCTV operator and I've got a baseball bat under my desk" sticker up Smile.

The bike being discussed is the WR400. When this was suggested before I was (or maybe did) question it's reliability, but a quick google revealed the 400cc version wasn't too bad; the 450cc version caught up with it's rivals need for regular maintenance it seems.

I would expect the WR250F to need the regular maintenance and being ever revvier, be even less suitable for commuting.
There's a new bike out called the WR250R - this is a trail rather than competition enduro bike, so will be ideal for commuting, however it gains weight and loses power. Basically a slightly faster XR250R.
I'm pretty sure the WR250F makes more than a claimed 33hp - but real-world probably is around 33hp at the rear wheel.
The CRF250X is generally considered to be a bit more serious than the WR, though I don't think there's that much in it for the latest models.
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JBurrows88
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PostPosted: 02:50 - 21 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The WR (new one) makes about 30-32 at the crank iirc. If also been told is was 28 at the wheel! Rolling Eyes (just take that its under 30 and not /that/ powerful) Very Happy

They look fun, i just wonder whether they are built 'well' (will it rust to bits like the yam 125cc's) Confused
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