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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Bio fuel Reply with quote

Hi

Anyone know anything more about this?

https://www.sapphireenergy.com/product

The details are sketchy (eg, how much space is required).

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:54 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not something I've come across, and I'd be one of the first people they'd mention it to if they want some govt backing.

Haven't heard anything about it from my tame scientists either, nor from any of the aviation industry contacts. They would be all over it like a rash if it meant a sustainable or carbon neutral kerosene.

So it's either the biggest invention of the decade and no-one knows about it, or it's a lie.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.greencrudeproduction.com

Their alternative site.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The founders have connections with ARCH Venture Partners (Kristina Burrow), Kythera Biopharmaceuticals and Syrxx (Nathaniel David).

https://www.technologyreview.com/tr35/Profile.aspx?TRID=247

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In 1999,with a doctorate from the University of California, Berkeley, Nathaniel David cofounded Syrrx, the world’s first automated factory devoted to analyzing proteins and their interactions with drugs using structural biology. The three-dimensional shape of a protein determines how well a particular drug will bind to it, but the structures of many critical human proteins remain unexplored. It can take researchers in a traditional lab months to produce,purify and crystallize a single protein and confirm its shape. Under David, San Diego-based Syrrx adapted robot arms from auto- motive assembly lines to crystallize proteins with far greater speed: the company can reveal 11 to 15 structures a month. Some scientists doubted the feasibility of automating an intricate lab process but David—who claims his best quality as an innovator is stubbornness—prevailed. Assole employee for 16 months, he raised $25 million. Syrrx now has 131 employees, $100 million in capital and has analyzed 90 potential drug targets for three pharmaceutical makers.


https://www.kytherabiopharma.com/

https://www.archventure.com
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, I see, its fischer-tropps using algae as the feeding stock. Yes, I know a bit on this one.

It can work. Growing algae has been demonstrated, fischer tropps has been demonstrated, I don't know if there is a pilot plant doing this yet. Main thing is that it's new technology, not really proven, and until it's working on a massive scale the fuel is going to be far more expensive than fossil fuel.

In terms of space required - very little. Example given to me was that to produce enough biofuel to supply Europe's needs, nearly all of Europe would need to be covered in high yield vegitation (fast growing grass, maize, that sort of thing). To do it with algae grown in vats, you would need to cover an area the size of Belgium.

Drawbacks - fischer-tropps is energy intensive and expensive to do. More practical if you're using nuclear power or renewables.

Oh and the aviation industry won't touch it with a barge pole for a good while, all the trace elements in fossil kerosene won't be present in this synthetic kerosene, and that could be a problem in an aircraft.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Algae growth though is easy isn't it?, in that in the pacific there is supposed to be an area that is gigantic the size of the US continent which has very little marine life.

Just dump all our old cars , bikes and anything else rusty into that bit the algae goes berzerk in growth we scrape it off the top.

Or just go to a River in Beijing....
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 25 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Algae is about as versatile as life comes, but there are a good few kinds of it as well.

Rusty metal is worth money. Algae can be easily vat grown and harvested.

I've had a theory on general reducing CO2/increasing oxygen levels by using algae for a while. If you could somehow engineer an algae that will only live in very specific conditions, and die/denature elsewhere, you could have a controllable source of an organism highly effective at reducing CO2 levels and producing oxygen - this is from thinking about the blue/green algae that made our oxygen rich atmosphere in the first place.

So you engineer algae that will only live in the sahara, or the artic, siberia, in a specific part of the ocean etc. You have effectively created an easily made or destroyed plantation that is more effective than a rainforest.

Only practical problem is stopping it from mutating/spreading. Real life problem is getting it past the hippies. Need to massacre them before doing anything else.
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