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carlos72
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 28 Jan 2009    Post subject: new biker! (with a fireblade) Reply with quote

hello people i am expecting some crap here from this posting i am taking my CBT on saturday (31st) and have a 08 fireblade waiting for me in my garage! ( yes i know its a monster machine but always wanted one and have bought it now so sorry! i am new to road bikes having rode moto x for years so just looking for advice on anything please many thanks guys and girls!
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 28 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have life insurance? Laughing

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PostPosted: 00:07 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello carlos, you are probably going to get a few comments about your choice of first bike in comparison to your experience but you make your own decisions.

Do you drive a car? If so you will have at least some road knowledge to build upon!

The CBT should be good fun, you might want to consider a lengthy set of lessons on the 500 before your DAS and maybe a couple of rides afterwards to build experience. I wouldnt want to jump onto my brand new bike if I didnt know what I was doing! Im saying DAS as Im guessing you are over 21 with cash to burn!

Either way good luck and take it easy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to BCF.

I'm not having a go but having not even done a CBT there is no way you will be able to make anywhere near the most of that bike. Still though, if you reckon it was worth it.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

personally speaking carlos, i had a thou for my fist, not a big issue in my eyes, as said though, you won't get the most out of it and as it seems you have never ridden it as you say you've yet to do your cbt, you need to be aware of how ridiculously blisteringly quick it will be. other than that good luck.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

He maybe went for a fireblade because thats what he wanted. I doubt he is under the impression he's going to be putting a record lap in somewhere.

He's going to be happy he has what he wants, he's not going to be gutted that he can't 'get the most out of it' is he?

If he can afford it, afford to insure and tax it and has the correct licence he can have whatever he wants surely?
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend went straight on a fireblade after getting his licence with Direct Access, the instructor thought he was mental, but he lived to tell the tale.

Just be careful and don't think you are a super human racer and try and get your knee down and you will most likely be fine.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:

If he can afford it, afford to insure and tax it and has the correct licence he can have whatever he wants surely?


Nobody is saying he can't, but to me at least it seems a little pointless.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it may seem pointless, but for me biking is about doing what I want and enjoying my riding. If they made a road legal GP bike that I could afford and I liked then I would buy it, despite me not being to get the most out of a 230bhp race bike.

Ive got an oven but I'll never be able to cook a perfect souffle, should I get a microwave instead as I'm not using the oven to anywhere near its potential? Laughing

(That is a weird analogy I admit, and I'm not totally sure it will make sense to anyone other than me Smile )
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair game, do what you want. But I would have tried to resist the temptation to go straight for the 'dream bike'. Purely for the reason; where do you go next? You'll get bored of it eventually, then you'll have to prematurely move onto cruisers because any other sports will be a regression having ridden a blade. Get your slippers and pipe ready fella.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is that this argument falls flat on it's face for me, as most new, or just average low-middle distance per year road rider's couldn't even get the very most out of an RGV250 for example. On a track it would be even more apparent, and it would take lots of track days and experience for most average rider's like myself to get a small focused 250cc sportsbike to corner, accelerate and brake to it's maximum potential lap after lap.

At a lower more sensible limit of trying, it would actually be far easier to get a good lap on a fireblade, and back on the road, you can ride a Blade badly and always be in the wrong gear, and still make fast progress and execute overtakes without massive planning etc.

To say you should not buy a Litre sportsbike unless or until you can really use it, and can't go any quicker on a smaller lighter, less powerful bike, is stupid IMO! On the road it really doesn't matter due to the speed limits and lack of opertunities to use most bikes to a good degree of thier potential. So what buying a big 1000cc bike does give you is ease of use and almost a blanket to cover up unskilled and under developed riding abilities.

It's also nice IMO to have a big powerhouse of an engine, that does'nt ever need to be worked hard to get strong performance from, unless you want to ride it that way.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 29 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that argument ignores the fact that a blade is a fuckload easier to highside or flip than a CB or other DASmobile.

(Not saying you will OP. I'm just arguing)
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is typical of the "want, want, want" generation of kids.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
Nobody is saying he can't, but to me at least it seems a little pointless.


I doubt Linford Christie sprints to the corner shop.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

He obviously has worked hard to earn it. If he takes it easy and gains experience before confidence he should be fine.

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PostPosted: 01:44 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoy your bike fella!! As everyone says just take it easy and there is no reason why you shouldn't be fine. A thou isn't something I would choose for my first bike because I am happy with my 600.

I don't think I would have a problem riding one because I am a very careful rider. I can see how some people would end up running out of talent before they ran out of bravado and I guess thats when things end up going pear shaped.

Nice looking bike too!! Enjoy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

well yea but thing is a fireblade isnt guna give you the experience to ride like a smaller bike would.. i dont think fireblades were designed to teach people to ride.. rather teach them to hold on tight and enjoy the ride.. depends what your guna be using it for.. guessing at going out on the odd sunny weekend or w/e soo you could plod along on anything really and do that but people (such as i) are just giving you advice cos they dont wont you ending up as another statistic (and we're jealous Mr. Green )
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have all the people arguing against the guy getting a 'blade never had or ridden a 900+ before?

They really are not that more difficult to ride than a sports 600, or any bike for that matter. Go back to any bike you have owned other than your first and think about how long it took you to adjust? Maybe 20 minutes till you were used to the new clutch and power delivery and a few hours until you were really comfortable on it. A 'blade is no different except you have a ton more power on tap that can catch you in a wheelie or put you in a slide if not careful.

And if he cannot get the best out of the bike who gives a fuck.

The only advice he really needs is to be careful.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
Moonie wrote:
Nobody is saying he can't, but to me at least it seems a little pointless.


I doubt Linford Christie sprints to the corner shop.


Unless he's desperately run out of milk and wants a cuppa! Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

steppen22 wrote:
This is typical of the "want, want, want" generation of kids.


Yeah what an arsehole, who does he think he is going out and buying a bike actually wanted perhaps someone should have belittled him and told him to get a piece of shit he really didnt like as doing the opposite would perpetuate some kind of idealistic stereotype driven by the observation of some bloke of the internet.

Are you really this miserable Steppen or are you trying really hard to look bigger than everyone else? So now its bad for kids to want things? Is there anything thats ok in your book? Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

He also mentioned that he's been riding motocross for years (and stuck '73 in his username).

I'd put money on the OP pushing the wrong side (or right, depending on your point of view Wink ) of thirty. So I think the 'want, want, want generation of kids' might be a less than well placed statement.

Sod it, if I had the money and space to splash out on a brand new bike I'd have done it some time ago!

It's not like he went out and nicked it (I, of course, assume!).
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow that's going to be an interesting first hoon!
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

not the first choice of bike I would make, but as has been said, be sensible and careful, and all will be ok.

I do honestly feel that my progression onto a 600 has been invaluable for learning, not saying you cant learn on a 1000cc, but there is definately something to be said for building up to it, take racing for example, many racers start off in lower class racing then move up to F1.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with that completely, its nice to progress and have something to aim for. Its also good to learn as you go and get experience. I think what we enjoy is different, as is shown above. Some want to be on the peak of their skills and push their machine, others just want to have fun and enjoy their riding. The fact they are wasting the potential of the machine is neither here nor there to them. I like that. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

frez wrote:
Have all the people arguing against the guy getting a 'blade never had or ridden a 900+ before?

They really are not that more difficult to ride than a sports 600, or any bike for that matter. Go back to any bike you have owned other than your first and think about how long it took you to adjust? Maybe 20 minutes till you were used to the new clutch and power delivery and a few hours until you were really comfortable on it. A 'blade is no different except you have a ton more power on tap that can catch you in a wheelie or put you in a slide if not careful.

And if he cannot get the best out of the bike who gives a fuck.

The only advice he really needs is to be careful.


Going to disagree with you massively there.

There is no forgiveness in the Blade, capital B or little b. Get it wrong and you'll end up in trouble. It's unstable, the brakes are over sensitive for most riding and it only takes a moments hamfistedness to put you into treble figures or having you watching the sky.

Mind you I donn't believe there is much forgiveness in a modern sports 600 either.

A 'Blade is not a good first bike, but it is a done deal so no point in shouting the odds.

It is possible, albeit more difficult, to learn on a thou and hopefully the OP still has the skills he picked up in Motocross.

Be careful, be lucky and enjoy your ride.
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