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 Posted: 21:49 - 29 Jan 2009 Post subject: Re-educating the Vietnamese |
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I dunno why this sprung to mind, but I had to tell you something about when I was travelling through Vietnam on my world trip...
When I was in Hanoi, each time I walked down the street - anywhere! I was harrassed, followed, and shouted at by the men on their mopeds - who's constant call of 'lay-dee laydee motorbike motorbike, cheap cheap' soon stopped me saying 'no thanks' and instead saying, 'no, it's not a motorbike, its a moped' or pointing at my feet 'free free'.
I was actually sick of hearing myself say 'no thanks' by then, several times a day, throughout both India and Vietnam!!! ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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 Posted: 22:01 - 29 Jan 2009 Post subject: Re: Re-educating the Vietnamese |
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| Clanger wrote: | I dunno why this sprung to mind, but I had to tell you something about when I was travelling through Vietnam on my world trip...
When I was in Hanoi, each time I walked down the street - anywhere! I was harrassed, followed, and shouted at by the men on their mopeds - who's constant call of 'lay-dee laydee motorbike motorbike, cheap cheap' soon stopped me saying 'no thanks' and instead saying, 'no, it's not a motorbike, its a moped' or pointing at my feet 'free free'.
I was actually sick of hearing myself say 'no thanks' by then, several times a day, throughout both India and Vietnam!!! |
damn! my uncle told me to use this chat up line on some chicks on here. guess it won't work ____________________ Hit the G spot.  |
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| robby wrote: | Sharia law forbids earning interest off a loan - largely because it's what Jews do.
Interesting tidbit of history - a few hundred years ago, before banks etc came along, Christians were forbidden by the Bible from earning interest on loans, and also due the fuedal system of rents and tithing, they never had any money to lend anyway.
Along comes your local Jew, who can and will lend money at extortionate interest rates to the local peasants. The Jews tended to live in stone houses, not wooden huts. This wasn't for reasons of status or comfort, it was so that they could lock their doors and hide in a secure house when a gang from the village came to attempt to kill them for being money grabbing bastards.
Good to see attitudes towards Jews have changed so much throughout history.
Anyway, back onto the OPish. an islamic loan is a loan without interest, although I'm not sure how the rest of it works. I would assume that instead of charginf interest there's a large upfront admin fee or something. Otherwise it would be free money. |
my boss is a muslim and i have seen it done before. they used islamic bank of britain which is part of natwest i believe. they purchased a property sort of. the bank owns the property and my boss pays the rent. once he pays off the initial amount of the property, he owns it. if he doesn't pay it off, he pays rent each month. the other day he was pissed off when he found out the rent was 9% of something. i assume a mortgage is less.
not completely clear but pretty much what i got out of it. ____________________ Hit the G spot.  |
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Sorry, I'm not a London boy, round my ends no man tries to sell you shit, because he knows he is wasting his breath and time.
With the exception of the dvd China-man who is a legend and everyone loves him, even he doesn't shove it in your face, just walks along, and everyone knows what the score is anyway.
When I was in Israel, I experienced nothing but ENDLESS arabs trying to sell me things, taking my photo, trying to sell me the polaroid, selling bread, camel rides, radios, you name it.
So I slated another country, as I never experienced this in my own.
As for the religious types they are a worldwide problem, not just anywhere.
Jehova's witnesses piss me off the most, as THEY, are not ready for the return of christ, let alone telling me I'm not, the plebians. ____________________ "Do what you always did, get what you always got" |
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Clanger, it's one of the reasons I only managed to get as far as Sri Lanka, India was a step too far. I suffered a considerable amount of harassment, both verbal and physical. I was covered head to toe, so not obviously a Western tourist wandering everywhere in a bikini and I'm dark not blonde, which normally helps.
Funnily (actually not, but.....) I was in Sutton today and wandered down into the town and was approached several times by sales people - something for Amnesty, another for disabled people, then npower and of course the Big Issue seller. I gave the usual polite 'no thank you' with a smile and was met with a right crappy look and muttering from the npower man and the guy asking for donations for the disabled was decidedly ungracious.
TBH in this country I still don't like it, but tend to shrug it off however, overseas I always feel vulnerable and edgy, as I worry about not being able to look after myself in a foreign country. ____________________ 'The core of a man's spirit comes from new experiences'
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| skiberdi wrote: | sort of unrelated but how was vietnam? thinking of going there this summer and buying a cheap bike and looping through cambodia. any tips? |
Well, everyone's experiences of SEAsia will differ from the next. But if there were to be a 'next time' for me to go to Vietnam, I wouldn't go alone.
I was harrassed, followed and inappropriately touched, pulled at/dragged along and rode at by a small group of moto riders in Hanoi, in the end I was so scared that I didn't dare leave my hostel without someone else, and got worried if I left the city by bus or train I'd be followed - so I bought a flight to Danang.
The 'moto' riders won't allow you to explore on foot or alone. They basically make your life hell. I have NEVER ever experienced that anywhere else in the world...
Apparently it's a common problem for a lot of westerners on their own, male and female alike...I did speak with two other single travellers who had similar bad experiences like me...and the police there are not in the slightest bit interested.
Unfortunately I found the city dwelling Vietnamese a lot like the Chinese, rude, intolerant, aggressive.
The pleasant and safer places to vist in Vietnam are Mui Nie, Hoi An, Hue, Ha Long Bay, and Sapa.
Cambodia however, is a totally different, absolutely amazing place, the people are so friendly, smiley, calm, conversationalists, interested in you (even if you don't part with your cash). I have a LOT of time for the Cambodian people, especially with the attrocities that they have had to contend with in recent years.
I would go back to Cambodia, Laos, and Thailand in a shot!!!! ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 116 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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