LOR Walk outs good or bad?

[warped one]

Well if you've been watching/Listening to the news today you'll have heard about the LOR (Lindsey Oil Refinary) in Immingham NE Lincs. And today there have been more walk outs in SCotland Whales and Teeside.

For those who are unaware of this it is to do with the Plant awarding a 200million quid contract to the Italians, when around Grimsby and other places there are 100's of people out of work that would be more than willing, able and happy, to do this work. Yet 400 italians are sat in a floating hotel in Grimsby Docks. And this is at a time where our so called government is apparently doing everything it can to help our economy, and to that I say FUCK you Brown, if you really were trying then you'd chuck these bastards back where they came from and employ some real skilled trades men from the surrounding area.

I myself am in the same industry, and so are most of my friends and family. Grimsby is a Industrial town tat is currently clinging on to what is left of our heritage of building and making things. So why fuck off our Local tradesmen to these cunts?

Heres a Link :- https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/7857996.stm

What do you think?

Cheers

Warped
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[Itchy]

This is completely normal , I as an accountant have been competing against outsourcing for years £5 buys 5 hours in pakistan , £5 buys 2/5ths of an hour in the UK. This made me work faster and harder than before.

My solicitor buddies have also been competing against people from India.

The point was that the contract was put out to tender and companies and organisations were asked to bid on it, they lost.

What they should really do is look at WHY their bid failed, ie did it cost too much , were the skills not in place?... when I say that I mean it as a country in skills / costs in that the UK is a very expensive place to live with its high levels of buerocracy.

In that its not likely it would have been labour costs in that the € has gained 20% on the £ in a year. Could be skills issue.

But as with the other post if people think its great to pay £1 for a shirt , or £20 for a suit , then you have to accept the other side of globalisation.
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

First off, the plant is owned by Total, which is French; blaming Brown* for what a French company is doing isn't going to help. If the contract was won by an Italian company, then as Itchy's pointed out, there must have been something lacking in the other bids. Probably, not enough backhanders :-

[hellkat]

Economic and political issues (which I do not have a hope in hell of understanding) aside:

I think in terms of Brits getting off their arse and giving a shit about SOMETHING, I think its good.

I suppose I'd grumble more if it were someone striking that affected me more directly, but for now its not, so I say, Go for it, wildcat to your heart's content.

We need a bit of militancy, to put some gumption back in the British psyche.
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[Itchy]

Ok hands up who rides a not made in UK motorbike? ....

there you have it...
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[Harold_Shand]

Saw some footage, good luck to them

I also saw a very fat UNISON rep in glasses and Hi-Viz marching about and he did actually shout "Come on, brothers!"

Ok, fat wolfie
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[stinkwheel]

I think the owners of the factory will feel they made the right decision in employing foreign workers rather than a bunch of reds who down tools if they are 30 seconds late for their lunch break.

I also think they will be the next arm of the British manufacturing industry to strike themselves out of a job*.

See also cars, steel, mines and shipbuilding**

**With the exception of the Clyde shipworkers who locked themselves IN and kept working when the shaipyard was earmarked for closure.
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[hellkat]

Fooooooooooooooooooooooood!

Whatsortafood?

hellkat
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Not nearly as interesting in real life.

[panrider_uk]

Fishy stuff mainly

We had Bird's Eye, Ross Food, Findus, United Biscuits, lots of fish filleters and smokers on the docks.

Now its mostly full of supermarkets

Mark
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[instigator]

Total didn't directly hire the italians, did they though? The Process Engineering Consultants did, Jacobs, a firm 'based' in America. And they subbed it to the italians to install. So although Total could probably have had a say in the matter, it is Jacobs that are at fault surely?

Fuckers, would never work for them again...

I say good on them, strike, stirke and strike some more.

[ms51ves3]

[Robby]

As I've said many times, particularly to friends of mine who work as labourers or similar barely skilled manual work:

Open EU. They can work here, and you can work there. If you're such an excellent employable workforce who don't you go and build houses in Italy?

The foreign workers have been brought in because they offer a better deal, or there was a large backhander or a mixture of the two. For the cost of shipping in these workers from Italy, setting them up over here and training them, you can assume that they are expected to be good.

So how does the local workforce show they would be great the job? They strike, and complain about foreigners.

[JonB]

Besides, I thought the biggest industry in Grimsby was the manufacturing of babies anyway?

I think it's good that people strike, but for the right reasons. Striking at a time when your jobs are at risk is lacking in common sense somewhat.

The French strike properly though. Have a look on the internet for the May 1968 strikes in France, puts the 1920's general strike in Britain to shame.
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