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PostPosted: 21:03 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Bike Impounded, Mate Burgled - Rant Reply with quote

Alright this is quite a long rant i need to vent, where to start.

How about last night, i posed this just before i went to sleep as you can see i had high expectations for the next day...

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Its now 5.00AM, at 4.00AM i finished a 7 hour session of poker at uni, the game was full of about 10 drunk/high students and a couple hundred pounds, much shouting, smoking and card playing later im sure there were a bunch of pissed off neighbours at the noise and antics, but you know what i dont give a fuck because i am £50 richer and am going go-karting in 7 hours, after that i will probably sit around at a mates house for the rest of the day getting high and playing mario kart wii Thumbs Up


So after 4 hours of sleep i get to my mates at 11AM ready to ride down to the go-karting track and have an hour of fun, So i park up on his quiet residential street in north west london, go inside for no more than 15 minutes, we both come out, begin to put our lids/gloves on when all of a sudden a van comes down the road (out of nowhere to us) and parks infront of my bike blocking me in, first i thought was this guy is gonna roll down the window and ask for directions, then he gets out of the van and walks over and says something about we are siezing your bike and crushing it!

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At first i thought he was a mate of my mate and was having a laugh, so i was like "Yeah from my cold dead hands you are", it went on like that for a few minutes, then he said he is from the DVLA and i have no tax, now being 99% sure i had tax (the disc was not displayed but i never display because it always gets nicked), but i told them to check the computer as if they have ANPR it will show as taxed right? and even if i dident have my disc displayed its only a £30-80 fine, anyway the guy looks like a proper pikey, prison tattoo's on his face and all, as did all of his 4 mates who appeared from down the road, so i continue putting my gloves on getting ready to leave, because in my mind its either a wind up or some chancers trying to get a bike, he reaches over to my ignition and turns the bike off, I grab his hand and quite forcefully say WTF are you doing touching my property and grab his hand while hes holding my keys in the ignition, voices are raised and he lets go off the keys as i tell my mate to call the police.

So he calls the police, who took about 15-20 minutes to turn up, in the mean time im sitting there on my bike discussing/arguing with him and protesting that i have tax and have somewhere to be, and that he is not police and has no right to detain me or my bike, he trys to "prove" it by ringing a number on his phone who he claims is the DVLA, the evidence being that the name he stored the number as is "dvla2", im thinking and said well that proves it then, its not as if you could just be ringing a mate. So i ask him for ID if hes from the DVLA, his friend shows some random ID card which could have been anything, to highlight that i pull out a random card from a garage and say heres my ID very sarcasticly as im quite annoyed at this point, we have now missed our booked karting session and are surrounded by 4 burley convict looking fuckers.

Anyway at first they had all crowded around to prevent me riding off but as the time passed waiting for the police my constant sarcastic and insulting comments to the main agressor were clearly annoying him so he walked away (i wanted him to swing for me so badly...), so im sitting there on the bike and im wispering to my mate, shall i just take off now, My mate is crazy, hes on a ban untill 2010 because he generally rides crazy and is crazy (think Luke VFR x 4), so when he basically says i shouldent im thinking man if HE wouldent run at this point maybe i should just wait, especially as the police are on their way...

Right so the police arrive, long story short here and it turns out that im not taxed, it ran out a couple of months ago and i was sent no reminder, im my mind i was sure i had tax untill April 09, so the policement who happen to know my friend are decent enough they show me the no VED tag on their ANPR, i ask them if there is any alternative to these guys taking my bike, can they give me a on the spot fine for it?, ofc not...

So i ask the "DVLA" contractors/pikeys whats the procedure now, can i pay you here, how do i stop this or get my bike back today?, No they cant accept payment here, they have to take it to their pound (in bloody tottenham) and i have to pay £100 to release it and another £160 surety on top if i dont bring a valid tax disc with me, oh and i need to produce my driving licence and insurance cert to them, which is all back home on the other side of london. I ring their office offer to pay over the phone by card, no dice. So i watch for the first time in my life as a bunch of pikeys lift my bike onto the back of a van (you can tell they have all stolen bikes before by the efficiency with which they loaded it) and i watched them drive off...

I felt sick.

So anyway there we are in full bike gear so we spend the next hour and a half on the train back to my house (25 mins by bike), scramble around to find all my documents, its at this point i realise its my MOT thats runs out in April... Anyway into a post office wait for hours as the benefit scroungers slowly collect their giro's, pay the poxy £48 on the tax disc and then spend the next 2 hours on the train to tottenham. Baring in mind we arrived there at 4:30 and they shut at 5, and if you leave it over 24 hours from being impounded the fine doubles to £200, so anyway i pay them their blood money, of which they only take cash (is that even legal nowadays?) and i ride us both back to my mates house, so thats it we think, shitty day, and it was supposed to be so good, but it could have been worse i guess as we are walking up his stairs....

So we get in, sit down and both notice that the room looks slightly different, but figure his girlfriend came home during her lunch and moved things around/tidied up, so he asks me to turn their laptop on, i look a round and see no laptop, neither does he... again much looking around and phonecalls later the only explanation is he has been robbed at some point between 1PM and 6PM, the brand new laptop is missing as is a chunk of weed, but nothing else, the tv is still there, as is the wii, as is expensive guitars etc, basically alot of valuables still in this house.

He knocks on neighbours doors and the downstairs guy said he was at home yesterday and someone tried to enter his flat with a key, but as they have opened the door he has come over and they have run off. My mate dident leave his doors open and no one else apart from the landlord (who is my mates girlfriends dad if that makes sense) should have a key, also there are no signs of forced entry. Anyway she came home from work and went, understandably absolutely ballistic, i just left quickly, poor bastard...

Such a bad and strange day, If we had been geared up before we walked out to the bike we would have been gone before the van had a chance to block me in, would have made the gokarting and been back in his house before these burgling scum had a chance to break in, we would have been there and caught them ourselves, all throughout the day my mate was like "aww i feel guilty if you hadent have come over to today you wouldent have got your bike seized" and now i feel like "if you hadent accompanied me on the 5 hour mission to get my bike back you would have not only prevented your stuff getting nicked but caught the robber red handed"

Im just shocked at it all tbh, one of my worst days for a good while, and what makes it even worse is if you look at the quote at the beginning i had such good hopes.

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PostPosted: 21:08 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have taken off as soon as their backs were turned.

If they're not police then it's not an offence to just drive away.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn man, pretty shit day. well i guess you are alive and well. that's what i always say when i have a really tough time you know.

it can only get better is what drives me on and i don't complain about the bad too much.

anyway get your mate to change the door keys.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
I would have taken off as soon as their backs were turned.

If they're not police then it's not an offence to just drive away.


Would have done just that but wouldn't even wait until they turned their backs.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came very close, very close to doing it, The van was blocking me in so i would have had to shimmy it back and forth and take off before they noticed im sure they would have tried to grab me, but i reckon my grab on the bars would have been stronger than their grab on me, especially if im caining it away, knowing my luck today though the usually reliable ZX6 wouldent have started on the button...

Also we had called the police about 20 mins ago so i thought they could literally be around the corner (they did show a couple of mins later).
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see your mistake. What you meant to say was:
So i park up on his quiet residential street in north west london, go inside for no more than 15 minutes, we both come out, begin to put our lids/gloves on when all of a sudden a van comes down the road (out of nowhere to us) and parks infront of my bike blocking me in, first i thought was this guy is gonna roll down the window and ask for directions, then he gets out of the van and walks over and says something about we are siezing your bike and crushing it! I bumped my bike up onto the pavement and made a sharp exit.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much money goes to the clamping-company (generally run by 'criminals') and how much goes to the government.
Sadly now the government schemes are making these crooks even more money than they're making themselves Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I see your mistake.

I bumped my bike up onto the pavement and made a sharp exit.



This is why i added the paint picture, all of you are going to have to take it from me that it would have been very difficult to make off, I wasent facing the pavement so couldent just bump it onto and ride off down the pavement, there was also a tree directly behind me, that coupled with the van immediately infront of me somewhat hindered my escape options. I also genuinely thought i had tax so getting into a fight or running someone over wasent that appealing a prospect.

G: They only accept cash so i wonder if any goes to the government, oh yea when i picked the bike up the boss of the company was driving a bently... lucrative daylight robbery...
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were you offered a receipt?

This is one case where Siggi's smashing a random window tactic could actually be reasonable Smile (well, not /that/ random, the Bently or a house it's connected to). They should have an idea why people don't like them at least!
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i have a receipt,

And funnily enough you should say that, the whole way there on the train all i was going on about to my mate is how im coming back at 4am, doing all of their tyres and windows in, i have lost the will now.

Plus its a fortified gated compound, it would involve wall scaling and dog dodging, plus there is probably a pikey campsite at the back somewhere... I could stand at the gate a lob random bricks and hope for a hit.

While i was winding them up before the took the bike i was saying that they were on the same level as traffic wardens, they seemed to know this fact, i image they all sleep like babies at night.

Dont worry though i do know where they operate now, and the faces of the 2 cunty ones...
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, in that case, should've got your nutter mate to nip round the other side of the van and let the tyres down while you kept them talking.

Then call the council and tell them someone is illegally double parked.

Damn, why do I always come up with this sort of shit after the time?
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the trink would be to find that Bently and have some fun with that (how about a bottle of piss in the cabin air intakes)?
Otherwise, you'll probably end up hitting other people's cars, which they'll riggle out of sorting out.

I don't have a big problem with traffic wardens actually getting properly-illegally parked people myself, though I appreciate in London most are seriously over-zealous. But then I still feel it's more on their boses and above's heads.
(When I get done for leaving my bike for five minutes outside the subway near my work, I might have another opinion of course!)
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Ok, in that case, should've got your nutter mate to nip round the other side of the van and let the tyres down while you kept them talking.

Then call the council and tell them someone is illegally double parked.


Not a bad idea, if only i was capable of such quick thinking under pressure...

G Im annoyed whenever i get a ticket of any sort, but if it was justified then what can you say right?, it was more the unprofessionalism of them, and the straight bad luck of it all today.

Saying that my mate reckons if the police wanted to be arses about it the fact i had no tax makes my insurance invalid which would be points... I dont know if thats true or not but i know i would rather a wasted day and £100 than points...
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude you're a courier surely you know the turning in a tight space trick ie revv the balls off the engine spin the rear and slide the back out either way and ride off, when my NTV was healthier I could do that and I can still it but not as well (probably psychological fear of dropping the CBR).
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Undoubtably if was able to do that i would have, it might even have made the story half interesting. Cold tyres would have worked in my advantage, as i say though for the 40 mins or so the whole thing was going on there was only a period of about 2-3 minutes when there was not at least 3 of them standing infront and to each side, and in that small window i have obviously bottled it...

Enough of all the advice, i made this thread for 2 reasons to vent and for your sympathy. So cough up or ill have the lot of ya, i bottled it by the road but im ready for some keyboard warrioring now.

If someone wants to start a collection i wouldent object either Thumbs Up

No but fuckit i lost £100 and my day, my mate lost a £800 laptop and a decent amount of lovely hash, and had a burglar in their house, he got the raw deal, especially as he was only being a good friend by coming along. London full of wankers...

Edit for Villers to save the BCF'er>Don>BCF'er>Don>BCF'er>Don pattern that is emerging here:

You pretty much got it spot on there mate, at one point all of them were standing about 2 car lengths away, it would have been a case of switch lights off, killswtich on, sidestand up, 1st gear, ignition on, pray that it starts on the button and then go, i reckon i could do that in about 2-4 seconds, i reckon they were about 3-6 seconds away from me from the moment they realised, i probably COULD have got away, but as i said it was us that called the police and i thought i was legal...

Oh yea a £48 tax disc of a vehicle that does next to no damage to the roads, and my mate, poor bastard, firstly his girlfriend's dad is the landlord so it really makes you wonder how the hell someones got a key, and he got it majorly i mean she came in the house, slammed the main door and absolutely went nuclear, screaming "EVERY FUCKER OUT OF THEIR FLATS RIGHT NOW, WHO THE FUCK HAS STOLEN FROM ME", i took that as my cue to make a sharp exit...
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don, forgetting the burglary for a moment, the whole bike thing sounds like a nightmare. If four very unofficial looking meatheads were trying to take my bike I would honestly be bricking it and I would know in my head that it would take a very dangerous 10 seconds to mount the bike, fire it up and get out of there. In which time all said meatheads have to do is push me hard from one side and I'm over. Very easy to say 'I would have legged it' but I bet you were shaking with adrenalin at that point?

So much bother over a tax disc when theres countless who are uninsured, taxed and MOT'd out there. Strange how you didnt get a reminder though.

Back to the burglary, that sounds like the crap that goes on in cheap hotels where people have the keys to the rooms. Would be asking some big questions of the landlord on that one. Poor mate, bet his mrs bent his ear all week over that one.

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PostPosted: 00:28 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
Don, forgetting the burglary for a moment, the whole bike thing sounds like a nightmare. If four very unofficial looking meatheads were trying to take my bike I would honestly be bricking it and I would know in my head that it would take a very dangerous 10 seconds to mount the bike, fire it up and get out of there. In which time all said meatheads have to do is push me hard from one side and I'm over. Very easy to say 'I would have legged it' but I bet you were shaking with adrenalin at that point?

So much bother over a tax disc when theres countless who are uninsured, taxed and MOT'd out there. Strange how you didnt get a reminder though.

Back to the burglary, that sounds like the crap that goes on in cheap hotels where people have the keys to the rooms. Would be asking some big questions of the landlord on that one. Poor mate, bet his mrs bent his ear all week over that one.

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not getting a reminder is common i feel. i missed my first ever re tax for 5 months until i got a fine. the next year i got a fine from the police because i didn't bother. since then i kept on it but have never had a reminder when it is due or even when i forgot etc
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont want to be making this assumption, but you say there were 4 pikey looking blokes, and basically you had the banta with em, and in short told em there all c'unts. im guessing they also knew you'd be picking the bike up that day from what you'd already asked that day, am i the only person making the connection of them knowing you or your mate wernt going to be in?
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure they'd know which was his mate's place?
Locks really aren't that hard to pick (or get around in other ways) in general, unfortunately.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thought very briefly crossed my mind tutton, If it was a straight break-in ie forced entry then for sure they would be prime suspects in my eyes, its the fact that the door was locked when we came back, someone had to have a key, and the likelihood of them having a key are so low i highly doubt it.

We tried breaking it into his door in a soft way, using credit cards and pens, no dice, there must have been a key used, especially as the downstairs neighbour said someone tried to open his door the night previous. I got a call from my mate a little while ago, he went out and brought some new locks and has fitted them now,

I honestly think it was just a convergence of bad luck on both our parts, coupled us both wanting and needing a nice fun day, Before we went out to the bike in the morning we were sitting in his house smoking one discussing what a good day today was going to be, oh the irony, it does feel as if fate is punishing us for daring to try and be happy...
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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not getting a reminder is common i feel


I must have been lucky so far, I must admit though I normally dont know its up until it arrives. I currently have the hayabusa tax disc still in its envelope unopened somewhere! Failure to display anyone?

Anyway, in 9 years of driving and 6 of riding bikes Ive not failed to receive a reminder Confused

Anyone else? Are the DVLA completely inept when it comes to reminders? Neutral Shocked
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yale lock?

Don't trust them, an unskilled idiot such as myself can have one open, using a key, in about 30 seconds.

Look up "bump key" on this here interweb.
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats quite sick stinkwheel, looking at how that works it could easily be that... Scary, I just have a yale lock...
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PostPosted: 08:03 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
. London full of wankers...

Move down to sunny Surrey ... you dont get none of that sh*t.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 31 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
Saying that my mate reckons if the police wanted to be arses about it the fact i had no tax makes my insurance invalid which would be points


Bollocks as like.
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