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JonB
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Engine Oil Colour. Reply with quote

Over the past week, I have been able to smell on occasion a fume like smell in the cabin of my car, mainly when going at a slow speed. I have had a look under the bonnet of my car and cannot smell anything there.

Today I checked my oil level to see if my car was burning oil; it's not. However the oil was a yellow like colour, which is not normal. Is it just because the oil is old? It's been 8,500 miles since it was last serviced and is due soon. However I thought that old engine oil generally just went a dark colour?

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PostPosted: 14:45 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellow oil usually means that coolant is mixing with the oil, which is probably pretty bad news.

But judging by the age of the car (I assume it's new ish?) it should be unlikely.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take off the oil filler cap, can you see mayonaise? (technical term i know Laughing )

If there is water/coolant in the oil then it creates a gungy yellow sort of goo, which sort of resembles mayonaise.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had an attempt to take off the oil filler cap, but couldn't prize it from the engine. Laughing Will have another go in a while.

The engine has only done 18,500 miles and is less than 2 years old. If there is coolant mixing in with the engine oil, is that covered under warranty?
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattHirst wrote:
If you take off the oil filler cap, can you see mayonaise? (technical term i know Laughing )

If there is water/coolant in the oil then it creates a gungy yellow sort of goo, which sort of resembles mayonaise.


This can also be caused by lots of short journeys where the engine doesn't have a chance to warm up. Condensation builds up inside the engine and doesn't get hot enough to evaporate so mixes with the oil.

The oil shouldn't be yellow unless it's very new (like cooking oil) if it's Bright yellow it could be water in it but a check of the coolant level should tell you if it's coolant leaking internally.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is 8,500miles not quite a lot between changes?
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a car, not a bike.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

10,000 mile service intervals. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 pence Short wrote:


The oil shouldn't be yellow unless it's very new (like cooking oil)


Or unless it's a Japanese car Wink

The oil in my Suzuki Jimny is due a change next week (9k mile service) and still looks like it did when it went in. It's so clean I have trouble seeing it on the dipstick, which I look at very infrequently because I've never had to top it up yet.

That's in a car which is 7 years old and is pushing 90k miles.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Engine Oil Colour. Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Over the past week, I have been able to smell on occasion a fume like smell in the cabin of my car, mainly when going at a slow speed. I have had a look under the bonnet of my car and cannot smell anything there.



The small may not be related to the colour of the oil. Check the exhaust to see it it's blowing as even if it is near the rear of the car fumes can be pulled in.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Engine Oil Colour. Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:


The small may not be related to the colour of the oil. Check the exhaust to see it it's blowing as even if it is near the rear of the car fumes can be pulled in.

How would I be able to tell if it is blowing?
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Engine Oil Colour. Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:

How would I be able to tell if it is blowing?


The exhaust sound will probably be sounding more hollow than usual when you rev it, Also you will hear it when you get near where it is blowing and on a day like today there will be steam coming from the hole.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you only make short journeys in the car?,

my gf had the same "mayonase" in the top of her corsa engine,

mechanic said it was because she only made short journeys to work , told her this like 3 times, then it started to over heat all the time, then we had to replace the head gasket Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I make a few short journeys, but mainly do over 5 miles and I expect about 3,000 of the miles were conducted on the motorway.

I managed to open the filler cap and there was no mayonaise like substance whatsoever. The oil and internals looked quite healthy from what I could see.

My housemate who knows quite a bit about car mechanics reckons what has happened is that the garage I bought the car from probably put in some really cheap oil to get the car out quickly and so it is going off quicker than decent oil would.

I think I might just get it serviced earlier and insist on decent oil.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The oil shouldn't go off like that. If it was like a yellow mayonaise I would go along with saying it was water from condesation from short journies (it will take FAR longer than 5 miles for the oil to get up to temperature).

Have you topped the oil up at all?

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I just the oil level on the dipstick and it is already at the maximum. Maybe I should describe the colour a bit better. It is still a dark colour, but has an orange.yellow tinge to it. The oil is still fairly translucent. if it wasn't a blizzard outside, i'd take a photo.

If it is condensation, will a complete oil change sort it? will there be any long term damage?
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Water in it (ie condesation) would result in an oil / water emulsion which would be pretty opaque. A very tiny amount of water in one place might give a yellow streak to the oil.

Not likely to do any long term damage, but probably worth going for a decent run to clear it out if it is a built up of condesation.

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