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PostPosted: 17:22 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Zipped 'normal' boots...worth it? Reply with quote

For my daily commute I generally wear some old Milatry boots donated to me by Goose a few years ago.
Not only are these looking fairly tatty, but one sole is actually pretty smooth now (partly thanks to only being able to use my left leg for a while.)

Was just going to get another set of Magnums, but noticed they now come with zips for 'easier access'. Always thought there was just something 'wrong' with a zip normal style leather shoes, but does it actually work well? Anyone else use them or similar?
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's faster than doing and un-doing your laces. Not that you usually bother to do that so your mileage may vary. Smile

You said my zippy magnums were 'wrong and geigh' if I recall...
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:

You said my zippy magnums were 'wrong and geigh' if I recall...

Actually, I may have said it with a 'y', thus part of my concerns Smile.

And I do do up my laces when riding a motorbike, mostly. Not that time consuming (unless you have to lace up half the boot), but still annoying re-threading a bit when I'm in a rush already.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will break the tabby bits off the zips. I did this within about a week of ownership. But if you stick a keyring ring on instead it's all good. Had mine a few years now, normal Magnum rules apply.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find zippy magnums annoying for kickstarting, because it rips the zip apart, other than that they're good boots, quite cold though.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think velcro is where its at for commuter boots

i have some of hein gericks bottom of the range from a few years ago, and they are perfect

no armour, and non-rigid sole makes them comfy as trainers
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want them to be reasonable 'every day' shoes - though, hmmm, not so sure about wearing zipped-boots for a night out in town, etc Confused.

Happy with fairly rigid sole etc (magnum's have metal in them and this GI-boots are significantly harder Shocked), but do want it to still look reasonably like a normal shoe/boot.
They also need to be fairly tough, which bike boots don't tend to be - magnum's aren't that great either, but a fair bit better than most bike boots. Even when on both feet, I think I'm quite a 'heavy walker' (aka fat Smile ).

After using up a whole tin of polish in two uses to try and rejuvinated these current ones a bit, I might even look after the next set a bit better!
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 01 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
You will break the tabby bits off the zips. I did this within about a week of ownership. But if you stick a keyring ring on instead it's all good. Had mine a few years now, normal Magnum rules apply.

Ditto ..I won't be getting zip up boots again

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PostPosted: 02:05 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the zip pulls broke on my boots too Sad

A bright blue cable tie makes a practical and stylish replacement Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
normal Magnum rules apply.


Front of the sole falls off as soon as you do some serious mileage in them? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freaks. Been wearing magnums for years (I have magnum shaped feet and a shoei shaped head) and my average lifespan from a pair of boots is around 5 years, maybe a little longer.

Not tried the zipped ones but I'd be a bit dubious about them, I seem to recall Mister James liking zippy magnums though.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 02 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine possibly get a little more abuse than others - which is why I was all the more impressed how well these army boots have done. They've been down the road a few times, been used for running, lots of moshing and general jumping up and down, off road motorbiking, had all my weight on the left one for a few months and plenty of other stuff.

Just seen a new pair on ebay for £10 no reserve, so might chuck a bid in as the more I think about zipped boots the less I like the idea as a 'general' boot - might still look at some just for work, but not sure if the time-saving is worth it.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
not so sure about wearing zipped-boots for a night out in town, etc Confused.


Why, are all your trousers 3 inches too short for you?

I doubt anyone would even notice they've got zips, you can barely see them. And on days when you feel resentment to the zip, you can use the laces to gain access.

Issues. You've definitely got issues.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
And on days when you feel resentment to the zip, you can use the laces to gain access.


Ahh, but he'd still know the zips were there. Lurking just out of sight but never out of mind, their presence polluting otherwise decent footwear. Zips on your boots? It'll be elastic panelled slip ons next...
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought lace up gortex army boots brand new from ebay for £33 intead of around £150 for what's worth. I wear them on and off the bike. Doesn't take long to lace them up. Broken laces are less aggro than broken zips. Penny Coin
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If my trousers were to cover my boots when sitting down, they'd be dragging the floor when standing up... life is more complicated than you might think!

And yes, it's not the using of the zip I have the issue with, but it's very prescence!

I noticed some of those Goretex boots on ebay... how do they do in the summer?
I tend to use my boots at festivals etc, jumping about in them and the like, so was thinking they might be a bit warm.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

could always fit a pair of these

https://www.survival-school.org/Portals/10/Zipits.jpg

and then if they snap you can keep the boots and won't get in the way of kickstarting
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worse than anything any other boot I'd say (although summer is a distant memory now). I'm pretty sure they're meant to be breathable. But if you can get a cheap pair and you don't like them you can sell them on easy enough and not lose any money. The pair I have are comfy. Box said cold weather though.

Same as these.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-BRITISH-ARMY-GORE-TEX-BOOTS-COMBAT-COLD-WET-10M_W0QQitemZ150323619197QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Militaria_LE?hash=item150323619197&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So can you put these Magnum boots with the zips on simply using the zip? And not have to undo the laces?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
So can you put these Magnum boots with the zips on simply using the zip? And not have to undo the laces?


Correct.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i think velcro is where its at for commuter boots

i have some of hein gericks bottom of the range from a few years ago, and they are perfect

no armour, and non-rigid sole makes them comfy as trainers


Which one are those colin?

I really want to buy myself a pair of decent boots. With added protection and better wear and tear. But also something that I am able to walk around in comfortably. I've got some cheap pair of asda boots as a temp fix. But they're really uncomfortable, and after having it for 2months, my left boot has a worn patch where I've been using the gear lever
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 13 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i think velcro is where its at for commuter boots

i have some of hein gericks bottom of the range from a few years ago, and they are perfect

no armour, and non-rigid sole makes them comfy as trainers


cicatrez wrote:
Which one are those colin?

I really want to buy myself a pair of decent boots. With added protection and better wear and tear. But also something that I am able to walk around in comfortably. I've got some cheap pair of asda boots as a temp fix. But they're really uncomfortable, and after having it for 2months, my left boot has a worn patch where I've been using the gear lever


have a look on ebay for boots from hein gericke (its a shop that sells bike gear, and do their own lines)

I've recently bought the boot zips that you lace into para boots, as recommended by this thread, and bazza ages ago

they are ace, as my commuter boots dont have much grip in snow, but the para boots i use for offroad do, and the zips make them as easy to take on and off as my commuter boots

however they are no longer a snug fit like that, so once i know the snow is gone for good, i'll be back to commuter boots, and the laces will go back in my para boots for offroading
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 13 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I decided I couldn't hack the 'image' (see, I am a tart really Razz) and went for a pair of the goretex army boots; new for £50.50 delivered.
Actually a bit harder to take off than my old boots, but <shrugs>, I'll survive Smile.
May reconsider in summer, but will probably just use my old ones for festival and other 'casual' use (though some grip probably would be useful at Glastonbury).
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 13 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have fat calves like me then you will end up breaking the zip.

I've broken both of mine now. Doesn't bother me too much as I just tuck my trousers over them and that holds them together.

Edit: never mind, just saw your last message Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 14 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I decided I couldn't hack the 'image' (see, I am a tart really Razz) and went for a pair of the goretex army boots; new for £50.50 delivered.
Actually a bit harder to take off than my old boots, but <shrugs>, I'll survive Smile.
May reconsider in summer, but will probably just use my old ones for festival and other 'casual' use (though some grip probably would be useful at Glastonbury).


try the zip inserts then, they are ace in army boots
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