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PostPosted: 19:00 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you actually retarded!

Linux has been around for ages! Anyway, most people don't know how to use it properly, I have it on my computer. I will show you later.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to rate this as FUNNY, purely because the stupidity is laughable. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

awaits "I tried to load Windows Explorer, but it didn't respond to the Windows key +E"
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing It has been around longer than windows has.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
awaits "I tried to load Windows Explorer, but it didn't respond to the Windows key +E"


Do you really think someone who doesn't know what Linux is, is going to know shortcuts like this?
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:
lllN30lll wrote:
awaits "I tried to load Windows Explorer, but it didn't respond to the Windows key +E"


Do you really think someone who doesn't know what Linux is, is going to know shortcuts like this?

Doh!
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look on the bright side - within a week, his netbook will be trojanned, virused and hijacked to the point of inoperability.

Which is nice. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
Laughing It has been around longer than windows has.


Windows 3.0, 1990 (Windows 1.0, 1985 - but I don't count that one)
Linux, 1991
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
ncrn wrote:
Laughing It has been around longer than windows has.


Windows 3.0, 1990 (Windows 1.0, 1985 - but I don't count that one)
Linux, 1991


But i am sure that it is based on UNIX which is older... windows has always sucked.. laugh in the face of Vista.... what a waste of time..
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was counting unix as its starting point, I know technically they aren't the same but still. Unix was 1983 I think?
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
I was counting unix as its starting point, I know technically they aren't the same but still. Unix was 1983 I think?

If you are going to count Unix then you should be judging it against MS Dos Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of which came 1st the op has a point.

Nigh on all flavours of Linux are hard to use if you've only seen windows all your life.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

PsychoHippy wrote:
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I was counting unix as its starting point, I know technically they aren't the same but still. Unix was 1983 I think?

If you are going to count Unix then you should be judging it against MS Dos Rolling Eyes


Touché Laughing.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
Regardless of which came 1st the op has a point.

Nigh on all flavours of Linux are hard to use if you've only seen windows all your life.


If you'd be raised on Linux then Windows would seem hard to use.

To be fair I don't think Linux is that backwards.

It's a good OS and runs much faster and more stable than windows.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
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Regardless of which came 1st the op has a point.

Nigh on all flavours of Linux are hard to use if you've only seen windows all your life.


If you'd be raised on Linux then Windows would seem hard to use.

To be fair I don't think Linux is that backwards.

It's a good OS and runs much faster and more stable than windows.


and lets not forget the cost.. who is allowed to develop the software..
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and lets not forget the cost.. who is allowed to develop the software..


The cost is a valid point. The devlopment part is a double edged sword.

Yes it makes the software more plentiful, but with so many different people developing there tends to be little consistancy.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Linuxing now.

The OP probably doesn't realise that there are as many different variations of Linux as there are uses for a computer.

That said, some of those smaller computers come pre-loaded with some pretty crappy flavours of linux. Mostly commercial variants it must be said. Any of the open source versions I've tried have been very good at doing what they were supposed to do, even the really minimalist ones.

I totally blew my bosses mind at work the other day by assembling a PC from bits in the computer "graveyard" we have upstairs, loading up a linux operating system (puppy) and playing him a video off youtube without fitting a hard drive. I was trying to make a point about how wasteful programmers are with their use of RAM.

He commented that it started up faster than his Vista home PC which has four times the ram and double the processing power.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have seen the SAME argument time and time again on countless forums.. I even started 1 myself when Vista came out.. Got over 100 posts...

At the end of the day what it boils down to

Do you like...
1. Microsoft and there marketing and control over the PC..
2. Bill Gates and the money he has made..
3. Do you like playing with and having control over your PC..
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's swings and roundabouts really, lets not forget that Windows enabled users to run a PC without ever being faced with a command-line over 12 years ago, something that few linux distros can claim even now. Yes OSX right there with it, but that doesn't have to contend with anything like the amount of hardware possibilities that windows does.

I must admit though, the OPs point is an annoying one, I refurbish and resell PCs and laptops and trying to sell a linux based machine is a mission and a half, and I suspect that a good portion of the ones that I do eventually sell get wiped and XP'd up the second they get home regardless of how well I configure and demonstrate them. It's a little frustrating really, Ubuntu is 100% viable as a full on replacement for the vast majority of users out there, with a little tinkering it's easily useable as a light duty gaming machine too (I had no performance issues running Steam and WoW through wine). Just most buyers are too afraid to take the plunge even when the lack of a windows license means the PC is upwards of 30% cheaper Sad
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 03 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is for the average user learning windows was probably a daunting enough task, let alone trying to learn how to use a command line to mess around with files and so on.

With the netbooks I don't see why windows is necessary, on the ones I've used the operating system was basic enough to let you do everything you could need on it without breaking anything.

Although it could easily be argued that as long as you aren't doing any major stuff to your computer then linux can be more than enough for a person, I wouldn't be surprised if you could get windows skins for linux actually.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if you could get windows skins for linux actually.


for sure.. if you can get a mac to look like and work like windows..
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
Thing is for the average user learning windows was probably a daunting enough task, let alone trying to learn how to use a command line to mess around with files and so on.


I occasionally have to install software on users' WinPCs to run a remote Linux application. This often entails installing an SSH client and logging into the remote server to do Linux command line $STUFF.

Considering these users operate these PCs all day, it still makes me smile when someone comes out with "How can you possibly remember all those commands and where the directories are for everything?"

And that's just the Windows admin...
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ain't no PC guru but I feel like a fully ordained nerd when I open a cmd window and do some real basic stuff. The majority of PC operators really believe that you are some sort of H4x0r.

Better still.

Create a few formulas and a macro in Excel while the language is set to Hindu or similar.

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PostPosted: 03:17 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux would be good if more companies developed for it and manufacturers started distributing desktops with it.

It'll never beat Windows now, just like Mac OS.
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