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PostPosted: 13:52 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Quads posing as motorcycles Reply with quote

At work we have a dedicated portion of underground parking for bikes. Popped out at lunchtime to find a 'quadzilla' thing parked next to me.

Now, I'm not being an anti-quad bitch, people can drive/ride what they like.

But the quad owner has taken up two bike spaces, his tax disc says 'PLG' not 'bicycle', he has four wheels.

Car parking passes are like rocking horse shit here. Why should he be able to park his car without a car pass, by pretending to be a bike? A convertible Smart car wouldn't be accepted in the bike bay.

This all probably wouldn't have bothered me, but for the fact that it has some stupid talking alarm fitted that went apeshit when the slabby rumbled into life Laughing

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PostPosted: 14:05 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what your manager reckons. The owner may well get cagers moaning at him for taking up space.

I wouldn't smear it with dog poo yet though. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pissing sick of them.

I'm all for loud exhausts, i love mine on the bike but there is a limit and when i go down a residential street i go slow and quiet. Not like these tits on quads blasting round and round the block on big singles with completely unsilenced exhausts.

As bikers we get away with quite a lot and i think cops and the government sort of let us get on with what we do and don't interfere too mush. But the general public tar us all with the same brush. These cheap road legal quads give us all a bad name and will ultimately result in more and stricter rules for us all.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
See what your manager reckons. The owner may well get cagers moaning at him for taking up space.

I wouldn't smear it with dog poo yet though. Wink


That's the thing, you see. To park in a car space here he'd have to apply for a pass, and most likely wouldn't get one.

I've emailed the person who runs the on-site bike & ped users group, they sort of liase with the facilities management bods about car park issues. Don't want to make a big fuss, just don't want to turn up one morning to find a 4 wheeled vehicle has nicked the last 2 bike spaces.

Hopefully the slabby will be threatening and menacing the quad as we speak, it will probably be too scared to park there again. Twisted Evil Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just keep starting up the slabby to set off his alarm.
Then run away and hide behind a car (bent over double and convulsing with laughter, of course, when he comes down to turn his alarm off).

Sorta like a bike version of knock down ginger Mr. Green

Maybe after a while, he'll get bored of coming down and resetting it, and think its something to do with where he's parked.


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PostPosted: 14:32 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rise of quad use by me has shot up. it seems that there are loads of kids (18-25) on them. It seems that they were once pedboys, then took the car test then went and got a quad. Quad riders/drivers seem to be the same as pedboys.

They should be treated as a car for parking and a bike for riding so the gits should wear a lid.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone in your work with a permit drive a smart car or similar?
Get your boss to request they share the space (and go halfsies on the permit) as the two would quite easily fit in one car space, and I doubt there is more than one quad. Nothing against quads myself, as there are close to none up here (Aberdeen) but I would be pissed if one stole my uni space (though of the 4 bike space it is usually only me and a Honda CBF) but we park with loads of space from each other Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I measure this kind of thing by how I would feel if I was using one; so... If you have one, you're probably a wanker. Its pure affectation, they aren't practical they're just a car with no roof.

They're quite rare up this way, but on the odd occasion you see one, its usually being ridden by some poncey hair-gelled git clearly trying to either impress small children or laydeez...

Obviously they think a scummed up mobility chair will do that for them... Wink

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get all the bikes to park 1 apart which leaves room for other bikes but not the quad. Thumbs Up Easy fix
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I think Quads are perfectly valid and practical methods of transport - for farmers, gamekeepers and forestry workers. Oh and soldiers in the field.

Pointless on the road though, you get wet and cold and vulnerable, without even being able to filter! Hand

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Just get all the bikes to park 1 apart which leaves room for other bikes but not the quad. Thumbs Up Easy fix


Nice suggestion Thumbs Up may be just the solution.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pa_broon74 wrote:
I measure this kind of thing by how I would feel if I was using one; so... If you have one, you're probably a wanker. Its pure affectation, they aren't practical they're just a car with no roof.

They're quite rare up this way, but on the odd occasion you see one, its usually being ridden by some poncey hair-gelled git clearly trying to either impress small children or laydeez...

Obviously they think a scummed up mobility chair will do that for them... Wink

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Sorry I have to disagree. A lot of 'bikers' use their bike as a weekend/fair weather toy rather than a 'mode of transport', as do some quad riders.

Fair enough, there are some kids riding them, but not so long ago I saw a guy pull out of an estate on a Raptor, he was in his fifties and proceeded to wheelie it for about 200 yards down the road.

I had a quad (sold it yesterday), and I'm certainly not a pedboi. In fact I've never owned a motorcycle of less than 400cc.

I bought a quad as a toy, because just like bikes they can be good fun.

As for the parking situation, I'd have to view each situation on it's merits. Personally I would park the quad in a place which it's most likely to be safe from theiving scum as they're just as vunerable as a bike.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been known to park the Trike in motorcycle bays in town, for pretty much the above reason although there is one I avoid which is marked motor bicycles.

(It says Motor Tricycle on the V5c)
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm certainly not a pedboi


Apparently though if you ride a quad you are
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Good to see some can still see past the end of there nose just far enough to look down on others.

Any more broad sweeping assumptions for us Pa Broon? While your at it don't forget to judge every other method of travel by the standard of the worst user.

I'll start, all bikers are probably wankers cos Ive seen a few few young lads riding them and they seem to wear matching leathers, I bet some of them wear hair gel too.

You go next, lets see how small minded you can really be Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say I'm a fan of road quads.

I see a fair few about now and I think that generally speaking the kind of person who choses a quad does so for similar reason that bikers choose bikes, but there's also some other reasons in there.

I've not been impressed with the ones I've seen, especially the one who was almost on my side of the road as he was 'leaning' round a bend doing well over the safe speed for the road.

Having thought about it, it might be the fact that many will be 'car drivers' with a car drivers mentality, being a biker you get it rammed into you from the start that you'll die if you make a mistake, not sure if it makes it through to those on quads.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 04 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just one of many reasons why I think that class B1 should come with Bike licences rather than a Car licence.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

to be honest with you, i used to work on Quads Racing and Road Legal....and to be honest, id rather have a bike for summer and a Quad for a Winter rather than a Car..... Quads can be fun if you use them wisely, funniest thing i saw tho was a guy buying a £7000 Suzuki LTR-450 Sport, tearing off up the road and where theres a bend he leans like hes on a bike and Rolls it into a Ditch....promptly came back into shop for repairs lmao!
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PostPosted: 02:36 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't a bike, he shouldn't park there. Surely it is that simple? AFAIK bike parking is only really provided since bikes take up little space, and only a small proportion of a workforce use them. It is easy to provide a small space to satisfy the small number of bikes at a place of work.

The same is not true of quads - some of those things can be massive. To provide the same number of spaces for quads would take up a lot more room, which the company would be unwilling to do.

Now, I appreciate their vulnerability to theft, so if it were me I would not actively persue preventing them from parking there providing all motorcyclists can get a space. If by parking there they are preventing a bike from using the space legitimately, they should be stopped from doing so.

Don't understand quads at all really, all the bad bits of a bike with none of the benefits. Can't see how they can be any more fun than a car either.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet it's V5c reads Motorquadcycle, so it is a Motorcycle, and the real reason most places provide Bike parking is so that the nasty motorbikers don't take up a car space each, which leaves a lot more room for cages.

I am thinking Quads are like Trikes, you don't understand them until you've had a hoon on them.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
I am thinking Quads are like Trikes, you don't understand them until you've had a hoon on them.


Surprisingly true. I had an LT250 quad, only ever used it on off-road courses and it was awesome fun... Would never use one on the roads though.

Going back the the OP's topic, I think the clue here is in the signage... If the parking says "MotorBIKE/BIcycle Parking" then it's clearly intended for 2 wheeled vehicles. If it merely states "Motorcycle Parking", as long as the V5 says Motor(insert bi/tri/quad)cycle, he can park there.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had the same problem at my old place of work.

What we did was -

me and one colleague put chalk down over the spaces marking out enough space for one bike.

Then we left notes on all the bike windscreens saying please park in the outlines leaving a gap of one each side.

This in effect stopped the quadbiker from parking there as all the bikes followed the rule as we werent keen on a quadbiker nicking at least 2 spaces.

He ended up parking in the restricted area, but nothing happened , he didnt get a ticket and he didnt get even get clamped. Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
the real reason most places provide Bike parking is so that the nasty motorbikers don't take up a car space each


Tend to disagree, perhaps I should modify my original statement. Normally bike parking is a space too small for cars to fit. I used to park my bike in the bicycle shed at my old work, and at the current one there are odd nooks and crannies which are marked for bikes which we use (my usuual is shoehorned in a 4' tall space under a ventilation tunnel).

It's only because cars don't fit that motorcycles are allowed to park, in general. These quads can be hefty, and taking up more than one slot which could be used for motorcycles is selfish IMO*.


*If they are actually preventing people that is, if there is free space then fill your boots.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graprilia wrote:
Then we left notes on all the bike windscreens saying please park in the outlines leaving a gap of one each side.

This in effect stopped the quadbiker from parking there as all the bikes followed the rule as we werent keen on a quadbiker nicking at least 2 spaces.


So you had all of the other bikes take up two spaces because you didn't want to share your toys with the Quad?
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was like this :-

We had a bike then a space left deliberately left , then another bike.

No one could find out who the Quad belonged to and as far as we know he didnt even work within the company.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 05 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a tough one really because a quad taking up a car space is slightly wasteful. It's not as space-saving as a bike but definately not equal to that of a car so I can't blame the quad rider (it is rider, yea?) for doing it.

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