Protecting your bike/property...

[Clanger]

I was having a chat with the fella I was designing business cards for the other day (alarms, property protection etc), about setting up some sort of electric voltage to the bike/garage to ward off potential thieves.

'Apparently' the laws have changed about what degree/means you can lawfully go to, to protect your stuff. Apparently, so long as you have a pre-fence for thieves to go through, the next line of defence, could indeed be something that causes a mild electric shock!

There you go peeps...I have always said electric current through the bike is THE line of defence...and it looks like changes in the law have provided the loophole needed to carry this out!!!
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[ms51ves3]

Just don't forget to switch your device off before getting your bike out

[The Original Muzza]

[Nebzor]

[Clanger]

Farms and equestrian places are allowed to use electric fences and they generally run along public footpaths/right of ways...

I suppose it might depend on voltage??

If you did frazzle a potential thief, then I suppose you could claim a short circuit...
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[tutton]

if it did fry em short circuit or not you'd get the book thrown at you.
and clever bike theifs would take along a rubber or polyestyrene matt/blocks. thus no shocks.
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[cyberglass]

Was looking at something like this a while back


https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ELECTRIC-FENCE-ENERGISER-12VDc-To-1000-Volts_W0QQitemZ110347482097QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL?hash=item110347482097&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

you could run it off an old bike/car battery

Hills motor salvage by my house has an ingenious setup basicly a 12ft high fence then about 1 ft behind that a 10000V electric fence.

So if you make it to the top of the first fence you grab the electric fence and get a shock. Then you fall and get pinned inbetween the first fence and electric fence. They will probably find you in the morning still getting zapped hahahaha



Search google for alarm mine

Basicly its a chunk of metal with a trip wire that fires blank shotgun rounds (or LIVE). Had one in my shed for a while after a few repeated break in attempts. Took it off after setting it off myself i was lucky i had my lid and ear plugs in.

If you are in the shed when that thing goes off you will retreat with perforated eardrums

If anyone wants to borrow it and have a play/prank someone just ask. Its a shame something of such amusing terror is sitting there doing nothing
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[DEN MONKEY]

You sure 10000v Volts running over your bike wont fry the electrics ?
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meh

[hellkat]

Yes but how to define a pre-fence.

Say one had ones belongings in, for example, a lock-up.

Which has a door, which obviously they would be trespassing, criminally damaging, and breaking and entering to get into. Is that considered a "pre-fence"? Or do you have to have a second fence-like structure with a warning sign regarding electrical protective devices on it immediately INSIDE the door?

Obviously you wouldn't want to put any sort of warning on the OUTSIDE of your lock-up: it would just be telling crims "Hi there guys; there's nickable stuff in here! Come and help yourselves "
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[Clanger]

He didn't say anything about a notice....just a pre-fence... apparently it's that pre-fence which allows you to go ahead with the electric fence.
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[hellkat]

I know this seems silly, but surely a door would be regarded as a pre-fence.
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[Clanger]

You would think....yes....but is it technically called a fence? No, people would call it a door...

I presume, if you got one of those hurdle type fences the council use around holes in the road, put that in front of the door, that would classify as a pre-fence.
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[hellkat]

good point
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[hellkat]

Cyberglass, your toy sounds interesting.
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