Do you belive in Karma?

[cal91]

Do you belive in Karma? You know, what goes around comes around.

I dont mean the BCF version, i mean the real life version.

So do you belive?
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[pyx_e]

Kind of. I know that if you try and lead a good life and are good to people it seems to make good things happen. And I know that if you are a misreable, selfish knut then you life becomes increasingly pointless and shallow.

However there are exceptions. Bad things do happen to good people and the other way round. Best to try and stay on the side of the angels.
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[hellkat]

Oh yes.
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[jayvfr]

Yep, been kicking me hard for a fair while now... but then I am a total bastard mostly so I do deserve it!
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[killa]

When the lands on earth were more spiritual i imagine this word came about due to a lot of thinking done by certain individuals. Hinduism explains it as actions which determin a persons destiny etc.
But it's just a word, Karma is inevitable, it goes hand in hand with another invention, fate.

When two people get together, fall in love and the way it happenes is rather extrodinary, some say that is fate. Some say this is misuse of the word, frankly i don't give a monkeys.
So to me this just means that the fate of something is simply things that happen in the future that you cannot predict, i.e. everything. You can predict to some degree through experience and probability but this is nothing to do with an unknown entity/force called fate.
Fate/karma is surrounded by an aweful load of bullshit, there are far simpler ways of defining what goes around comes around. They are not the same thing, one is external agencies the other is down the individual and positive actions.

"The law of karma is not a justice and retribution system, so anyone who has had much suffering in this life is not a victim of 'bad karma,' but simply finds themselves in predicaments that are simply the result of their own beliefs about themselves."

So in other words, a load of pap.
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[Hetzer]

No.
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[hellkat]

I utterly utterly believe that optimism has a more positive effect on life than pessimism.

Positivity (in the main) has had a good effect upon my life and the way its gone (so far). And its not about not dealing with reality, because I've always confronted reality head on, with a positive and can-do attitude, and in general difficult things have managed to be worked out. If not, then provided you learn to brush them off, dust yourself off and get on with it, life turns out not too bad.

Dwelling on stuff makes it WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse than it need be. Its possible thats how karma "becomes" bad.

People often don't recognise that they ARE being pessimistic, or negative, and it often affects their life accordingly.

But ... as pyx-e very correctly points out, bad things do happen to good people. Its not great, and its not fair. But then what's fair? Where do we get off expecting that things would be fair? We weren't given a citizens charter when we were born, that said we would get a certain percentage of fairness in life.

But worse things happen to bad people
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[killa]

[hellkat]

I totally agree.

But my mentality is that if I am unable to comprehend the scale of such things, then - biological rather than cosmological arguments aside - I was not put here on earth to change those things if I am unable to comprehend them. Hence I must have been put here to make life nicer for those around me.



Although I believe in "Shit Happens", too
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[GhostRider]

Generally no, as Killa put it, very good things happen to bad people in a hugely disproportionate manner. I think of it mainly as a buddhist invention to keep followers in check, much like the fire and brimstone threats of the christian religion.

The law of karma is usually touted as whatever you do comes back 3 power. Well, why not 4? Why not 2.5? Why 3? And why would the universe or whatever cosmic entity which controls karma give a flying shit about the actions of any individual, so as to punish them for their actions - of course, its also subjective as to what constitutes as being bad and matching the punishment with the crime.

Im not sure whether being positive or pessimistic exists on the same plane, as I'd always thought of karma being weary of ones actions for fear of repercussions, rather than ones outlook on life in general.

So, with all these things to consider, one can safely assume its a man-made concept, and thus utter utter bollocks.

GhostRider
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[hellkat]

Okay well I still think that "karma" and "mindset" can have a lot of influence either positive OR negative upon a person's actions and the reactions of those around them, hence making certain circumstances more likely to occur.

Damn, I've got too much work this afternoon to sit here discussing "karma"
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[Bofh5]

Got to say that although i used to i don't anymore.

Reasons:

1. My dad who was a great person and helped anyone ended his days with alzheimers ! This is quite possibly the worst way to go.

2. The b*stards who nicked my bike are still riding around on another stolen bike and the CPS don't care.
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[Dragonfly]

Yes I believe in karma I also believe it could do with a helping hand along Only gives some sort of consolidation when you cant get the c*nt that did it

[st3v3]

I do to a degree, but I think Killa is majorly right, I call it logic. If you do something bad, then chances are something bad or worse will get you, in line with "treat others how you would wish to be treated" and all that..
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[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Load of Bollocks

edit:
oh the reason...well put it this way..if i believed in a divine i'd be more inclined to believe karma
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[hellkat]

Now I'm not in the mood to discuss it.
Oh well, shit happens
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[mr jamez]

No, are you potty?!

Jesus was a thoroughly nice chap, but died a lingering death on a cross.

My grandmother was the kindest and most caring person I had the fortune to meet, but was killed way before her time by cancer.

My grandfather on the other side of the family was a complete **** yet lived to 87!

What we perceive as karma is generally people running out of 'luck' because of what they are involved in.
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[hellkat]

*shrugs*

In all honesty, if life has taught me anything, its taught me not to have expectations.

We all still have them, we might not agree that we do, but we do.

I understand that about how good people have shyte happen to them. In many instances above, people have quoted about how people who have never done wrong in their lives have got the arse end of a stick.

But like I said, we don't actually get a citizens charter stating that life will, in fact, be fair.

I suppose it really is what ya make it.
Which, maybe, is where my "yes" to karma sprang from.
If you act a certain way, certain things may happen.

Then again, they might not.
Life's not set in stone.

I feel apathy tweaking my trouser leg on this matter ...
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[colin1]

i believe in reverse karma. Selfish people tend to win out in life. Selfless people get taken for granted and taken advantage of.

But its not necessarily a causal relationship, its an associative pattern.

Capable people tend to be more confidant, do well, and be selfish, less capable people tend to try harder to please, and get the shitty end of the stick.
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[ish765]

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[Ariel Badger]

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[Ariel Badger]

We are off to Long Marston drag strip today to test the new Badger engine
out.
As I was loading the bus up last night a strange thing happened. An old Muslim
lady talked to me in Pushtu, I told her I did not understand and she spoke
in English " Are you looking forward to living in paradise?". I must
try not to think about it being one year ago tomorrow since I last seriously crashed breaking my ribs
and knuckles.
Maybe there is such a thing as karma, I hope mine is good at present.
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[chris-red]

It's crap, I spent all week last week not calling everybody I met a cunt and did Alexa Chung sit on my face? Did she bollocks.
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