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kawakid
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Fitting a new shock - Should I thread lock? Reply with quote
Laughing

Just bought a Hagon for my Z as its suspension is sh*te.

They recommend using a thread lock when fitting.

Now i've never ever used anything like this and am a bit worried if I need to take the thing off in future.

Should I use it? On the Dog bones also Question

Any help appreciated Idea Idea
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Fitting a new shock - Should I thread lock? Reply with quote
kawakid wrote:
Laughing

Just bought a Hagon for my Z as its suspension is sh*te.

They recommend using a thread lock when fitting.

Now i've never ever used anything like this and am a bit worried if I need to take the thing off in future.

Should I use it? On the Dog bones also Question

Any help appreciated Idea Idea




hi m8
they usually have locking nuts fitted so not really necessary.

if your worried about thread lock it will come undone again it just holds the nut and prevents vibration loosening it Thumbs Up

your gonna love the shock ive bought loads of hagons just don't over-tighten the top and bottom nut & bolts and use a torque wrench if you have one although as said they are nylock type anyway so not critical Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
If it has nyloc type nuts and you are worried about them holding simply buy some new nuts from Kawasaki Wink
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kawakid
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm planning to use the existing bolts.

I wanted an Ohlins really but they are twice the price.

I never really new what people went on about the Z having a bad shock. That is until I bought an ER6 and I was like wow , this is sooo smooth.

I've also bought a shortened shock as I'm 5'8" and I can't quite flat foot both sides.

I did work around this before by using dog bones, but I heard really bad things about them, so my original dog bones are going back in. I went for a 30mm reduction. They said this was normal.

Just hope I don't have to shorten the stand.

Only thing left to do now, is to look for some new fork springs.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shortening the shock will still make it handle funny, you'll need to drop the forks by the same amount of maintain geometry. Personally I would have looked at getting the seat re-sculpted first, but there you are.

O, and don't worry about the thread lock, just torque them up and check them after the first ride if you're worried. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
Shortening the shock will still make it handle funny.


To be honest I didn't notice any problems when I used the dog bones. But the drop then was 20mm, its now going to be 30mm.

I just thought, seeing as it was all going to be custom built, i'd do it right.

I did ask Hagon, about just using the 20mm lowering dog bones, but they said they'd do it right with a custom shock. (£40 more and setup for my height and weight).
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Fitting a new shock - Should I thread lock? Reply with quote
kawakid wrote:
Now i've never ever used anything like this and am a bit worried if I need to take the thing off in future.


You'll still be able to take it off. When you go to undo the bolt it will be quite tight until the loctite breaks and makes a big crack noise.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
kawakid wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
Shortening the shock will still make it handle funny.


To be honest I didn't notice any problems when I used the dog bones. But the drop then was 20mm, its now going to be 30mm.

I just thought, seeing as it was all going to be custom built, i'd do it right.

I did ask Hagon, about just using the 20mm lowering dog bones, but they said they'd do it right with a custom shock. (£40 more and setup for my height and weight).


Hmm, give it a try with the forks pulled through the yokes and see how it feels.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 24 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can't wait to get her back on the road. I am really hoping for a big improvement from the shock.

Going to have to get her un SORNed as she's been in the garage since October. No point doing so until Monday as it will then be in March not February.

So this month, I have bought a £300 shock, I need a £120 tyre and 2 lots of bike tax (each bike). Ohh and i'm thinking of sorting the front of the bike as well with new fork springs.

Bugger, didn't have to spend a penny on bikes for last few months.

Joy.
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