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L-Jam
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Life, why cant it be easy. :] Reply with quote

Wow, I was hard done by.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really think sharing my crummy upbringing will do much to make you feel much better, but I actually think your parents are giving you a taste of reality...it's better that you learn the cost of things now.

You could make your life much simpler and cheaper by not forking out for haircuts and things that seem daft to spending out your well earned cash on (save it for important things like the bike & petrol)

If you think it's bad now living at home, wait till you're out there on your own - buying everything else, including loo rolls, toilet cleaner and other stuff that it's simply not possible to do without, as well as rent, bills and everything else on top.

Welcome to the real world. It gets better the older you get and the more money you earn!
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Well to be honest it doesn't sound that bad, I did not get my own transport till I was 19 I did get to borrow the familiy car sometimes and use the bus.
Hair cuts we usually done by mum. For work I mostly workin the family shop very early morning before college to markets to buy stock.
Saturdays were spent in tescos to pay for stuff.
I never dreamed of being able to afford to go on holiday and I was not badly off in my peer group.
You just want more. You have what you need and have to learned you can't have all the toys
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know what you mean, but I know what the real world is! It would just make it a Fuck load easier if support was given a bit more, then I wouldn't have to experience the 'real' world so much. And a hair cut isn't exactly a lot for my mum, but a tenner for me is two weeks petrol. It all adds up so quick, and with coursework all the time its just like give me a break Smile
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mrs Kickstart: From your idiolects, you sound from an older generation so I will assume that your peers were in a similar position, so you cannot really compare - my peers mostly own cars which their parents paid for, half dont even have a job and get more than me. Just pisses me off, thats all, when I am constantly acheiving more than them.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonesy boy wrote:
you sound from an older generation so I will assume that your peers were in a similar position, so you cannot really compare.


I think it's best not to make sweeping assumptions like this... everyone of us had a childhood, everyone had dreams and aspirations, everyone of us had problems with growing up in general, some had it more cushy than others...

This is your reality...learn to accept it, not dwell on what others 'seem' to have better than you, and be a bit more optomistic about everything...it should fair well in the long run.

You just have to make sure you're in control of your destiny. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another way of looking at it is many of those cars will be on credit. Some of those people are really going to struggle over the next year or two maybe your parents are trying to make sure you have a bed

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PostPosted: 21:54 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generic comparison with own teenage years

Generic advice and suggestion

Generic final comment to try and blunt the harshness of the previous statements


nb; actual post replaced with above due to the fact that you're not really interested in what I have to say and the real comfort/insight comes from simply typing up the OP
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could not be bothered to click the little red cross in the corner..

Have you tried talking with your mum and dad about this, see if they can help you out with a few things.
They can see that you are working your ass off trying to make the most of yourself, and in the long run your hard work will pay off.
It is no good looking around at what everyone else has got and what you have not got, because Mrs Kickstart is probably right.
All of there cars, bikes and other little luxuries are probably on credit or they are paid for by there parents.

You have got the satisfaction of knowing that everything that you own and everything that you do, you have earned...

Most of us have had hard teenage years, but they were hard in all sorts of ways. Some of people on here have had there things given to them on a silver platter whereas others have had to graft for everything that they want. And those are the people that have gone far..

You are a teen. Your teen years are supposed to come with stress.
It prepares you for Real Life...

Don't get to worked up about things in life. Look to the future.
Good luck with ya mission to get A's...

P.s. Sorry for the Essay...
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonesy boy wrote:
my peers mostly own cars which their parents paid for, half dont even have a job and get more than me. Just pisses me off, thats all, when I am constantly acheiving more than them.


Pretty much the same situation as I was in a bit over 20 years ago at your age, and can get worse. Some people get given loads of stuff, some just can manipulate parents more.

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Life, why cant it be easy. :] Reply with quote

jonesy boy wrote:
I was given this oppertunity because I was one of the top 10 English students in my high school.


nuff said Wink
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honest opinon - i think your being a unfair whiney twat,
up your hours for work on a sunday, sundays are crap anyways.
I have no lie in any day now unless i book the holiday off, i love a lie in, but must get on with life and money.

Your mum and dad expect you to pay for everything because there not a handout service, they've been supporting you for the last 17 years, you have a job you just need to budget your money blatently. Moped maintenance, thats something you take on as your taking the sole responsiblity riding it, besides your repair bills are hardly high my 50 i worked out in 12 months i spent 3 times what i paid for the bike Laughing things fail because there not maintained which inturn costs more!

My mates are in cars and that and im walking atm while the 50 is knackered and gettin lifts, its a bummer but its life, ill get over it i feel disapointed with myself on that level too, but there always as skint as me from fuel etc.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Honest opinon - i think your being a unfair whiney twat


LoL, way to go with the sympathy and kind words bud Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a limb, Im going to guess you didnt pay for the moped yourself.


You're clearly a kid striving for attention for your achievements. Well thats all fine and dandy, but how about you up your own securities and be happy in the fact you're achieving well.

Oh no, the parents actually expect something apart from an ASBO or, "you did your best". Theyre providing push for you. Take it on the chin and use it grow, Mr. Achiever.

You clearly understand what effect your post would have and have anticipated the responses. Which means you're pretty smart, and have already put the cynical replies in the bin, and will ignore anything not positive.

We understand, you need to rant. Just wait until you've got some real responsibility sunshine, you'll look back on this and think "Christ, I had it pretty easy."

Bit of perspective and attitude evaluation goes a long way. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life itself is shit.

You will either accept this or find a way to deny it.

Keep in mind that however cruddy things are for you now, it is only going to get worse for you, as the older you get, thje more things stink, putrid existence, rotting hopes.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:22 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm its pretty normal.

It only gets worse as you get older, you will meet bullying bosses, people who will break your heart , be treated like dirt by colleagues.

Have to smile at being abused , go into work when you are really ill heh I remember 2 years ago when I had the flu and I was weak as a kitten and still had to go into work I could barely ride, so kick back and enjoy your youth while you can...

your parents obligations generally ends at 16 , it might be just the boot in the pants you need to seek and attain something better.

Ie in a manual job I can earn max about £200 a week , in a white collar job this goes up substantially but you get stressed as a result.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

am sorry mate but your bitchin about that? Lol you really should count yourself lucky tbh. I'd list my life for you but i'll get everyone callin me emo wolf again cos they think am all slit wristed about it. I actually expected worse in this thread but am not gunna insult you bout it, your lucky, end of.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 28 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea quite what your point is, or exactly what you are complaining about.

Life is shit, get a grip. You are 17, your parents obligations are done with, get on with it.

At 17 I flunked my AS levels and joined the Navy, my choice at the time, but it wasn't a walk in the park. Trust me, things could be a lot worse than wondering where your next hair cut is coming from.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could be happy with what you have achieved. The problem may be you can’t see the reason for it. Achievement for the sake of it (or to keep up with whoever) falls short for me.

I think it’s good to have voiced your frustration; it may lead you to question things. It could also be process of growth and understanding.

I would not be so quick to judge what life is like by your limited experience. There is a whole world out there of ideas and experience you are not exposed to. Amongst other things I went to India for a few months during my younger years (I’m 33 now). Had a great experience. It made me realize just how different other cultures are, and that there are many ways of seeing things.

So I try not to take a negative attitude toward things that don’t go with my plan. Its life after all, what do I expect?

I guess that’s what keeps it interesting.

Ultimately I think Life is what you make it. If it wasn’t we would all agree that a certain experience has a certain value.


I think people say “life is shit” because it’s easy and widely accepted within this culture. It also give people the feeling they can “Tell you” about something, and give you several obvious examples.

You’ll get the best ones during a recession.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Now our little boy came up to his mom
In the kitchen this evenin' while she was fixin' supper
And he handed her a piece of paper he'd been writin' on
And after wipin' her hands on her apron
She read it, and this is what it said.

For mowin' the lawn, five dollars
For makin' my own bed this week, one dollar
And for goin' to the store, fifty cents
An' playin' with little brother while you went shoppin', twenty-five cents.

Takin' out the trash, one dollar
Gettin' a good report card, five dollars
And for rakin' the yard, two dollars
Total owed, fourteen seventy-five.

Well, as mom looked at him standin' there expectantly
And I could see the mem'ries flashing through her mind
And so she picked up the pen, and turnin' the paper over
This is what she wrote.

For the nine months I carried you growin' inside me, no charge
For the nights I've sat up with you
Doctored you, and prayed for you, no charge
For the time and the tears
That you've cost through the years, there's no charge
And when you add it all up
The full cost of my love is no charge.

For the nights filled with dread
And all the worries ahead, no charge
For advice and the knowledge
And the cost of your college, no charge
For the toys, food and clothes and even for wipin' your nose
There's no charge, son
And when you add it all up
The full cost of my love is, no charge.

Well, when he finished readin'
He had great big old tears in his eyes
And he looked up at her standing there and said
Mama, I sure do love you
Then he took the pen,
And in great big letters
He wrote PAID IN FULL.

Lord knows when you add it all up
The cost of real love is, no charge...




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PostPosted: 00:39 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyx_e, good point, hang on a minute ill just pay my barber's with love. Then I'll ring up PayPal and tell them the NC30 I just bought was with love, so It's okay. Oh, and BTW, it was my mother's choice to have me so she accepts full responsibility for cleaning my nose, as I undoubtedly will with my own offspring.

Unclestoo, if thats all you can pick out in a paragraph then your right, nuff said.

Too everyone else, thank you, I realise life could be shitter and life could be better, but is there any short term solution at the moment? Because it sure is hard to just keep going to college, keep going to work, keep doing the shit things I dont even like for a better future that isn't even guaranteed.

Whine over now, optimistic brain on.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB, I have an 18 yr old son, so I was pulling your leg/getting my own back a bit. Trust me when I tell you that when you are 21 living in your own place and looking after yourself and all you spoilt mates are STILL at home sponging of their weak assed parents you will see in yourself the maturity that comes only from dealing with your own shit and not expecting Mum and Dad to sort it for you. Unlike them who will have everything except a backbone and any character. Your parents sound like they are doing the right thing by you.

Just to cheer you up here is an exert from a conversation with my son last week.

Son; Dad cos I spent most of last week at my girlfriends I don't think I should pay full house-keeping.
Me; sounds fair, how about we start next time you go over there?
Son; OK, that will be next week.
Me; cool, don't forget to take all your stuff with you.
Son; WTF??????

How I laughed, dozy little twat.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol thats quite harsh, from his perspective anyway Smile

You charge him housekeeping? That is wrong, hes your child! Come on Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 01 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonesy boy wrote:
I realise life could be shitter and life could be better, but is there any short term solution at the moment?
Whine over now, optimistic brain on.


Yea, be more pragmatic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatism#Concept_of_truth
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