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PostPosted: 22:07 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Average Speed Check Areas Reply with quote

Having just done a fairly irritating sightseeing tour of the nations motorways (M1, M6, M62... around 400 miles thereof) I went through quite a few average speed check areas (all suspiciously set at 50 Rolling Eyes).

Anyway just a quick show of hands as to what people do in them. Baring in mind the cameras are designed to automatically take the front plates of cars, and therefore don't work on us.

Which then brings it to a case of whether you believe we get tracked/flagged as no-reads etc.

Anyway I've been generally going through them smoothly and merrily at 80ish. Enjoying the sheer fear in the cagers locking them exactly at 50 and thus static Thumbs Up

I stuck to 80ish in the danger that piggies would somehow be alerted by a no-read (I was the only bike most of the time) pinging up as going faster and choosing to make an example of me. I also thought they were less likely to if I didn't seem to be going for the limiter in top the whole way through.

How about you guys?
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If their clear I'll go as normal. If they are busy, I'll go at whatever seems safe for the circumstances.

The speed limit I will ignore and judge myself.
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through a lengthy 50 average speed check zone on the way to Nottingham on Saturday; I kept at 50 because there was a lot of traffic and I had a friend on the back, and I wasn't sure if they'd be able to get me or not so I played is safe.

In future I'll just go as fast as I usually would if there was no camaras.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Tend to stick to the limit - ish.

Pretty safe from the cameras. They work off the front numberplate so with no plate on the front they have nothing to match up the 2 images to check the times and calculate a speed to flag up as dodgy. However if you are going much more than the cars then you will be very obvious to any lurking unmarked police car.

Also, take the mickey too much and they will make the effort to get SPECS to work with bikes (even if that means handing us all a bill for front numberplates).

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PostPosted: 00:17 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stick to the limit.

I'm sure someone could, if they wanted to, search through the other side's cameras or look at the cctv for the bike's plate.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It always annoys me how they have long 50 zones for roadworks when no-one's there because it's weekend.
No problem keeping speed down when they are there working in the next lane.
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

10% plus 3mph is there margin so in a 70 I do 77/78, no cameras what ever is a safe'ish speed but tend to do blasts more than constant, I have never been booked for speeding on a bike ever because I am a careful rider though I have been stopped for a talking to Smile
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is in no biker's interest for someone on a bike to blatantly flout the law, especially if it antagonises the majority of road users. ie. car drivers.

I expect that the government would like to make using a motorbike more difficult, so giving any excuses for them to do so is "shooting yourself in the foot"
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Average Speed Check Areas Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Which then brings it to a case of whether you believe we get tracked/flagged as no-reads etc.

I stuck to 80ish in the danger that piggies would somehow be alerted by a no-read

How about you guys?


Stick to limit and enjoy a chance to take a bit of a breather.

Something you forgot, many of these zone's are also free recovery. As such they have cctv along the whole length of the section.
No hardship to swing a camera round and pick you plate up. Or if operator is that way out, a quick call to traffic division about a biker carving his way through road works in a dangerous manner. Add in that many are also stay in lane and you are not only looking at speeding, but also dangerous driving.

We have to start acting as grown up's and not think that because they cannot flash our plates we are safe... They will simply devise canera's that can pick up bike plates or make have a front facing one.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Average Speed Check Areas Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Which then brings it to a case of whether you believe we get tracked/flagged as no-reads etc.


we are invisible to the SPECS cameras, They only lock-on to number plates. if it doesn't see a reg plate then their is nothing there as far as its concerned.
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikedemon99 wrote:
10% plus 3mph is there margin so in a 70 I do 77/78


Really? I don't think so. They could get you for doing 71mph if they really wanted to. The chances of it happening are minimal as there are that many people doing 80mph down the motorway that it becomes acceptable, but there's always a possibility.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M25 cameras must be set at 80 at least. I've been through them following traffic at 85 on the Speedo and no flashes or tickets.

As for the average cameras i dont cane it thorugh them weaving because you might as well put a flashing light on your lid and a sign on your back "dry rape me now"

I do however make progress carefully where its safe. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
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10% plus 3mph is there margin so in a 70 I do 77/78


Really? I don't think so. They could get you for doing 71mph if they really wanted to. The chances of it happening are minimal as there are that many people doing 80mph down the motorway that it becomes acceptable, but there's always a possibility.


ACPO guidelines state 10% + 2mph, but they are guidelines rather than hard and fast rules.

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PostPosted: 10:47 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was a set just out of edinburgh, when they were altering the bypass, they were set at 30mph i used to ride through them every morning and night when i worked at the cockenzie power station,
i averaged at least triple that speed in the morning and atleast double in the afternoon,
i never once heard from the police, even after 5 months of doing the exact same route twice a day 6 days a week
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do what you do, Especially that average speed check on the A40 westbound coming out of london, whatever speed i can do, i always exit by the camera in a different lane than i started in i heard that messes them up too..
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't do much motorway riding so I only come across them every now and again. So I tend to go at normal pace when in them, which for me is about 80 on the mways. If I was going every day and the camera was capable of recognising motorcycles then I would go at the speed limit as you are asking for trouble if you constantly do it.

I don't think they operate when there are no workers out, as at the start of January there was a set on the M4, myself and two of my house mates (cagers) went through them (on separate journeys) we each reckon we averaged about 100mph, none of us received any fines or the like. It could have been luck for both of them, but then one did go home the next weekend and went through them over the speed limit twice more..
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could just blast through then pull over over for a fag and then carry on Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
bikedemon99 wrote:
10% plus 3mph is there margin so in a 70 I do 77/78


Really? I don't think so. They could get you for doing 71mph if they really wanted to. The chances of it happening are minimal as there are that many people doing 80mph down the motorway that it becomes acceptable, but there's always a possibility.


They could do you for 50 in a seventy if they wanted you they'll get you simple as that but the police guild lines are what I said so they can be certain of a conviction, I know this as fact so no use saying it aint so to me!!!
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:


Also, take the mickey too much and they will make the effort to get SPECS to work with bikes (even if that means handing us all a bill for front numberplates).

All the best

Keith


I think they already have the technology and are rolling it out gradually?

They are putting up some rear-facing SPECS on the Cat and Fiddle.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikedemon99 wrote:
They could do you for 50 in a seventy if they wanted you they'll get you simple as that but the police guild lines are what I said so they can be certain of a conviction, I know this as fact so no use saying it aint so to me!!!


It is a guideline though, and they are free to ignore it. It they tried to do you for 50 in a 70 when the evidence said 50 then they would fail. Try it for 72 in a 70 with the evidence saying 72 and they would succeed.

Former colleague of mine got done for 32mph in a 30, well under the guidelines.

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PostPosted: 22:28 - 03 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing i've noticed, especially on the M62 and A1 works is that trucks do not slow down.

You stick to the posted limit when a truck is behind, it will tailgate you until it decides to pass.
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