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igiyf
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 05 Mar 2009    Post subject: Bird flu Reply with quote

I thought this was absolute bullshit,the theory has been for some time that a certain wealthy family had the virus re-engineered ready and waiting to cause chaos-that was not to far fetched as its possible..yet the theory's i heard from people and the famous you tube that the virus would be added to flu vaccines to kick it off i could"t believe,they've been around for some time.

Turns out the virus has been found in vaccines(mainstream news)..make what you will of it looks as though it would take some creative imagination to come up with reasons why this was indeed an accident:

Czech newspapers are questioning if the shocking discovery of vaccines contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus which were distributed to 18 countries by the American company Baxter were part of a conspiracy to provoke a pandemic.

The claim holds weight because, according to the very laboratory protocols that are routine for vaccine makers, mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible.

“The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses,” reports the Canadian Press.

Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H5N1 - otherwise known as the human form of avian flu, one of the most deadly biological weapons on earth with a 60% kill rate - were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany, and Slovenia.

Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking “trade secrets” and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident. This was seemingly an attempt to quickly change the story and hide the fact that the accidental contamination of a vaccine with a deadly biological agent like avian flu is virtually impossible and the only way it could have happened was by wilful gross criminal negligence.

According to a compiled translation from Czech newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic.

“Was this just a criminal negligence or it was an attempt to provoke pandemia using vaccination against flu to spread the disease - as happened with the anti-B hepatitis vaccination with vaccines containing the HIV virus in US? - and then cash for the vaccines against H5N1 which Baxter develops? How could on Earth a virus as H5N1 come to the ordinary flu vaccines? Don’t they follow even basic precautions in the american pharma companies?” states the translation.

The fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. The H5N1 virus on its own has killed hundreds of people, but it is less airborne and more restricted in the ease with which it can spread. However, when combined with seasonal flu viruses, which as everyone knows are super-airborne and easily spread, the effect is a potent, super-airbone, super deadly biological weapon.

As the Canadian Press article explains, “While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.”

There can be little doubt therefore that this was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne.

The Canadian Press article states, “That mixing process, called reassortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created,” but then claims that there is no evidence that this is what Baxter were doing, despite there being no clear explanation as to why Baxter has samples of the live avian flu virus on its premises in the first place.

However, to reiterate, the key aspect of this story is that it is virtually impossible for live avian flu virus to find its way into a vaccine by “accident”.

As health expert Mike Adams points out, “The shocking answer is that this couldn’t have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.”

As explained on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf…):

“Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features.”

Under the BSL3 code of conduct, it is impossible for live avian flu viruses to contaminate production vaccine materials that are shipped out to vendors around the world.

This leaves only two possibilities that explain these events:

Possibility #1: Baxter isn’t following BSL3 safety guidelines or is so sloppy in following them that it can make monumental mistakes that threaten the safety of the entire human race. And if that’s the case, then why are we injecting our children with vaccines made from Baxter’s materials?

Possibility #2: A rogue employee (or an evil plot from the top management) is present at Baxter, whereby live avian flu viruses were intentionally placed into the vaccine materials in the hope that such materials might be injected into humans and set off a global bird flu pandemic:

Unless option 1 or 2 do it for you,not really much to talk about on this one other than what the fuck Laughing-what do you think
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

H5N1
H5N2
Various flu strains
Product not irradiated

Laughing Ok..unthinkable.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a load of labs got raided on the 25th of last month to see if they had this.

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PostPosted: 20:18 - 25 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's actually pretty nasty.


It's good that now whatever the cause was, it has been stopped.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 25 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had that last week, but a few lemsips sorted it out.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 25 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was offered an H5N1 jab, but I chickened out.
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 25 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked I just had the last of my hep B jabs yesterday (Lifeboat crew).
Funny because everytime time I have an injection I worry about RFID's Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac_Kaliba wrote:
(Lifeboat crew).


We have an actual real hero in our midst. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicks dig H5N1 apparently. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 26 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never trust a Budgie with a cough.
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Mac_Kaliba wrote:
(Lifeboat crew).


We have an actual real hero in our midst. Thumbs Up


lol but becuase I risked and lost my license I have'nt been active for some time now, was there for a year solid from when I was late 17...
License back now so I'm planning to get back there soon, I'm SRT trained and I hold an RYA II powerboat license.
Good gig but it requires allot of weekends... and time generally, I have'nt been able to commit to being on call yet though becuase of work and college.
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