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rockers
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: need help with brakes Reply with quote

Hi all
went to take my brake pads out of my front brake to get some new ones, got the caliper off and there's what looks like two long bolts going thought the brake holding the pads in.
now have managed to snap off a 3/8 driver to 5mm hex off and broke a ratchet, and to make matters worse i tried again with some more kit and rounded the dam allen key head inside.

so my question is what do i do now ? am i stuck ?
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heat it up with a blow torch and remove with mole grips.
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rockers
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

remove with mole grips ? the allen cap head bolts are ina recesse, heat up with a blowtourch ? wouldnt it ruin the seals in the brake ?
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

rockers wrote:
remove with mole grips ?


Yes.

rockers wrote:
the allen cap head bolts are ina recesse,


Mole grips on the pin part that isn't in a recess.

rockers wrote:
heat up with a blowtourch ?


Yes.

rockers wrote:
wouldnt it ruin the seals in the brake ?


Maybe. Seals are cheaper than a new caliper.
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rockers
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what pin part ? there are two hex cap head holding the pads in not pins
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then hammer a torx head bit in it, heat the caliper up with a blow torch and remove.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to save money, don't take advice offered on this thread, seek professional help and buy standard parts.
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsteko wrote:
If you want to save money, don't take advice offered on this thread, seek professional help and buy standard parts.


You really don't know what I do for a living do you? Laughing
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rockers
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hair dresser Razz

everyone's entitled to there opinon. i just see using a blow tourch and mole grips abit bodge.
options ive also been told are use left hand drill and drill it out or weld a allen key onto the bolt and get a new calipere.

so think i will try the welder first and report back

thanks

Rocky
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes that would be the 'cold' welding as opposed to the one where the welding wire melts?
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alun111
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully agree with sickpup, heat and some sort of grips is the way I'd do it. Do you really think they'd do it differently in a garage?

It's not a bodge at all... I'd say drilling is as if you fuck up you can knacker the threads in the caliper body and have to tap the hole left and then use custom made parts from there on.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my SV650 did this I couldn't get them to turn at all, so I split the caliper and got it apart that way.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsteko wrote:
If you want to save money, don't take advice offered on this thread, seek professional help and buy standard parts.


What are you talking about,sickpup is professional help,you mean pay for professional help, Razz
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsteko wrote:
If you want to save money, don't take advice offered on this thread, seek professional help and buy standard parts.


If you want to save money go to a dealer?

So instead of trying it yourself for free, pay someone £50 an hour to do the same thing. Confused

You'd make a rubbish accountant. Laughing
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sickpup
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
So instead of trying it yourself for free, pay someone £50 an hour to do the same thing. Confused

You'd make a rubbish accountant. Laughing


I don't mind being paid for advice on here Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 10 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with sickpup in many ways, you brakes will save your life, lack of them could well kill you, please get help. I have never had to remove any cap screws to change brake pads, although I havent had every bike yet so I may be missing something. P.S This is my first post, Hello everyone.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 10 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although i'm listed as L plate warrior, I have to confess to riding for over 34 years, owning bikes from all around the world and still having from 1250 bandit to LE200 velo's with a few inbetween.Bike safely. Reckless.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 10 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the bandits ive owned have blanking screws that need to be removed to gain access to the retaining pins.I agree with sickpup..WARM the brake pad up with a hot air gun or blow lamp..give up when you need to flamethrower strength!!!when warming move the screw back and forward(ie..undo and tighten!!!)If the pins do get mullered..buy a new set..think theyre about 6-8 quid each,so its not Fort Knox money....AND the brakes do save your life!!If you cant be arsed..THEN pay someone to do it for you!!!!! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 10 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Impact drivers are another good tool for persuading the tight to play the game and WD40 works a treat if you are patient, took me a week to free off a bleed nipple with daily squirts.
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 11 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

reckless_b wrote:
Impact drivers are another good tool for persuading the tight to play the game and WD40 works a treat if you are patient, took me a week to free off a bleed nipple with daily squirts.


Ahem, Nipples, daily squirts.... Laughing
(sorry couldn't resist!)

reckless... No one will actually pay any attention to your little title under your name, that will change as your post count goes up, so don't you pay any attention to it. Wink
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