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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 06 Mar 2009    Post subject: Breakers in the York area? (or got a spare reg/rec)?*FIXED* Reply with quote

Just over seeing the gf and the VFR appears to have eaten its reg/rec.

Speedo went first, repeatedly pinging to zero and back, lights next (dark, otherwise I'd have switched them off) then it died altogether.

Might just be a broken wire causing a lack of battery charging but it is a VFR750 on its original reg/rec at 40k miles, this is probably something of a record.

I can pinch the one off the gfs GPz but I would prefer not to because that leaves her fitting it again after I post it back.

So, anyone know of a motorcycle breakers in this neck of the woods?

Doesn't matter what it's off, as long as it is 12V and has 6 wires I ought to be able to bodge it on. In fact, I'd rather NOT have another VFR one. So if anyone is nearby and has one lying around..
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a hitherto unheard of fit of convenience, I just found out there is an autojumble within easy cycling distance of the GFs house tomorrow morning.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinkwheel I asume you mean Rufford auto jumble, as there also Newark autojumble sunday morning too.

however, the reg/rec your looking for, is it a stock honda 1?
As I`m guessing it will be similar to other honda reg/recs, twin plug 3-yellow wires on 1, and 2/3 wire ....red,black, blue or white on the other. I have several ....7? (inc new) for the CB900f2. they are almost identical to superdream reg/recs in plug/connector configuration.

When I had a charging problem with the CB900 I went thru a phase of swopping them out to try to resolve the problem, however the fault wasn`t with the reg/rec it was with my stator/rotor which I had re-wound. so the 1`s Ive got should be ok
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peirre o`Bollox wrote:
Stinkwheel I asume you mean Rufford auto jumble, as there also Newark autojumble sunday morning too.

however, the reg/rec your looking for, is it a stock honda 1?
As I`m guessing it will be similar to other honda reg/recs, twin plug 3-yellow wires on 1, and 2/3 wire ....red,black, blue or white on the other. I have several ....7? (inc new) for the CB900f2. they are almost identical to superdream reg/recs in plug/connector configuration.

When I had a charging problem with the CB900 I went thru a phase of swopping them out to try to resolve the problem, however the fault wasn`t with the reg/rec it was with my stator/rotor which I had re-wound. so the 1`s Ive got should be ok
PM me if I can help


I've tested the windings and connections with a meter ($6 from Wilkinsons) and they all check out ok to within about 10 ohms. Short of something very obscure and intermittant, it is the reg/rec.

There is no heat sinking on the VFR750 reg/rec, they are notorious for failing, usually every 20k miles or so, There is some evidence of the potting compound breaking down too, all in, the reg/rec is the most likely culprit.

Rufforth came up with the goods with both a CBR600 one and a superdream one. Either of which ought to fit. Tenner the pair. Thumbs Up

I'm going to bodge it on for now with some of those nasty pre-insulated connectors from halfrauds and do the job properly later with some connector blocks.

The CBR one has two green wires. They both appear to be earths, presumably to make people think it is some special sort of rec/rec.

Cheers for the offer and info. If these both turn out to be duds, I have a fallback plan in the form of the othe rautojumble. Can't do anything more until the battery is charged now.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where abouts and when is this auto jumble? I'm in Leeds and looking for a few bits for my honda. thanks
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddclarke wrote:
Where abouts and when is this auto jumble? I'm in Leeds and looking for a few bits for my honda. thanks


First saturday of every month at Rufforth Park for the one I went to. You ought to be able to find pretty much anything there, if it isn't there, one of the breakers will almost certainly have it back at their yard.

Update:
CBR6 reg/rec unit fitted, battery charging at 14.6V. Status = WIN.
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, fix now road-tested. I just rode 140 miles in the dark and it is all still working.

CBR6 reg/rec unit works fine on a VFR750. It also fits in the space under the side panel and the hole centres are in the right place to bolt it to the frame.

It's bodged on at the moment with crappy pre-insulated crimps. I'll redo these through the week and maybe sort out the frame attachment a bit more sympathetically with regard to vibration.

Cost to fix:
Second hand CBR600F Reg/rec, £5
Terminal set and crappy crimping tool, £2
TOTAL: £7
Price of new, genuine VFR reg/rec ex. Honda: £85
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PostPosted: 02:17 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

Cost to fix:
Second hand CBR600F Reg/rec, £5
Terminal set and crappy crimping tool, £2
TOTAL: £7
Price of new, genuine VFR reg/rec ex. Honda: £85


It is one of those flat oblong ones with a sort of soap dish dip on the surface? , stick a CPU heat sink on it for £1 and use some silver thermal paste £1 and maybe stick a CPU fan on it £2 and it will last much longer mine lasted through baking spain easy.
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PostPosted: 02:29 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:

It is one of those flat oblong ones with a sort of soap dish dip on the surface? , stick a CPU heat sink on it for £1 and use some silver thermal paste £1 and maybe stick a CPU fan on it £2 and it will last much longer mine lasted through baking spain easy.


The original was like that. The replacement one is fully heat-sinked with cooling vanes just like they used to be.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

eddclarke wrote:
Where abouts and when is this auto jumble? I'm in Leeds and looking for a few bits for my honda. thanks


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Rufforth is about five miles west of York on the B1224.

The auto-Jumble is at Rufforth Hall a few hundred yards past the village as you travel away from York

Best way is to go to google maps search for Rufforth and then do a route from your post code.

Its a good day out, take plenty of cash and watch out on the roads for plod Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 09 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was lucky Thumbs Up

I've been meaning to go to the autojumble for the last 2 years, I always seem to be away or busy when it's on!!!! Laughing
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